ERod -- 1 yr, $2MM, after being > $1 million apart in arbitration

[Curt]

53 minutes ago, woods-racer said:

The second and third lines for the Sabres this past year where not very good.

Why is it paramount that anyone of these individuals be kept?

I don’t think it’s paramount, but you need to evaluate the players as individuals.  Half of the middle six was decent 3rd line players, the other half was guys who played like they shouldn’t be in the league.  Together, the middle 6 was garbage, but not every player in the middle 6 is garbage.

[pi2000]

His hearing was yesterday? 

[Eleven]

18 minutes ago, pi2000 said:

His hearing was yesterday? 

Yes.

[Tondas]

5 hours ago, Drunkard said:

If that happened who is gonna play center for this team this season? Are you bumping one of Girgensons or Larsson up to the 3rd line? Would you put Sobotka up there? Rush Asplund into the NHL when he may or may not be ready yet?

Yes, to any of your 4 alternatives.  McCabe and Ullmark are more valuable and I don't think we can afford all 3.  E-Rod goes at $2 mil.

[Derrico]

3 hours ago, Eleven said:

Yes.

Is it usual to have heard zero details on this more than 24 hours after the hearing?

[GASabresIUFAN]

30 minutes ago, Derrico said:

Is it usual to have heard zero details on this more than 24 hours after the hearing?

Yes.  Arbitrator has 48 hours to make a ruling.  We'll know tomorrow.

Edited July 24, 2019 by GASabresIUFAN

[#freejame]

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Yes.  Arbitrator has 48 hours to make a ruling.  We'll know tomorrow.

That’s something you can find in the CBA right? 

[jsb]

If @Brawndo hasn't posted it yet, nobody knows anything.

[woods-racer]

7 hours ago, Weave said:

It is only paramount to the extent that we need to have an improvement on the roster before letting someone go.

So there are no problems paying 2 million for a 3rd line center an long as he is better than E-Rod?

Because that's where I'm at. Spend the money wisely, he's not Skinner.

[GASabresIUFAN]

1 hour ago, #freejame said:

That’s something you can find in the CBA right? 

Here is a really good article on the arbitration process.  https://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanlake/2019/07/24/inside-nhl-salary-arbitration-and-the-40-players-that-have-filed/#883602860f30

[#freejame]

11 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Here is a really good article on the arbitration process.  https://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanlake/2019/07/24/inside-nhl-salary-arbitration-and-the-40-players-that-have-filed/#883602860f30

Very informative. Thanks!

[nfreeman]

5 hours ago, Tondas said:

Yes, to any of your 4 alternatives.  McCabe and Ullmark are more valuable and I don't think we can afford all 3.  E-Rod goes at $2 mil.

It’s an interesting point about not being able to afford all 3, and I agree that McCabe and Ullmark are more valuable.  

Makes you wonder whether Zemgus and Larsson saw the pie getting smaller and grabbed theirs while they could.  I kinda think their agents would’ve advised them to do so.  

I’m also interested in the question raised upthread of whether there would be a dropoff if their bottom 2 centers were 2 of Zemgus, Larsson and Asplund.  I could be convinced either way.

 

[GASabresIUFAN]

Why can't we afford Erod?  Even at 2.6, I'd much rather keep him then Girgensons, Larsson, Sobotka or Wilson.  You cut or trade 2 of these excess forwards and you have the money for Erod.

 

[Drunkard]

17 hours ago, Tondas said:

Yes, to any of your 4 alternatives.  McCabe and Ullmark are more valuable and I don't think we can afford all 3.  E-Rod goes at $2 mil.

I'd rather dump Sobotka or somebody worse and more expensive than Rodriguez to come up with the money. I'd keep McCabe and Ullmark as well but there are plenty of other places to trim the fat on this team (Scandella, Bogosian, Sobotka, Okposo, Hunwick, etc.).

[Huckleberry]

Quote

Andrew Copp was awarded a two-year, $4.56 million contract with the Winnipeg Jets by an independent arbitrator Tuesday. It has an average annual value of $2.28 million.

Guess Erod will be around the same.

[LTS]

12 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Why can't we afford Erod?  Even at 2.6, I'd much rather keep him then Girgensons, Larsson, Sobotka or Wilson.  You cut or trade 2 of these excess forwards and you have the money for Erod.

 

When you say cut, what do you mean?  Buyout? 

Edited July 25, 2019 by LTS

[GASabresIUFAN]

9 minutes ago, LTS said:

When you say cut, what do you mean?  Buyout? 

Cut = waive aka send down to the AHL.

[woods-racer]

14 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Cut = waive aka send down to the AHL.

Sending him to the AHL (he must clear waivers) is the only way to shed his contract amount against the teams cap, correct?

[GASabresIUFAN]

29 minutes ago, woods-racer said:

Sending him to the AHL (he must clear waivers) is the only way to shed his contract amount against the teams cap, correct?

No.  You can lend them to a Euro team as an alternative or hope you can trade someone like Larsson for a late rd pick.

[Huckleberry]

2 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

No.  You can lend them to a Euro team as an alternative or hope you can trade someone like Larsson for a late rd pick.

I would not trade Larsson , he is an excellent 4C.

[Brawndo]

ONe year 2 Million per Sabres PR

[darksabre]

Works for me.

[That Aud Smell]

That'll do nicely. And he's gonna be massively motivated.

Tom Golisano may hate those damn geese, but he's gotta love the one-year nature of this deal!

[bobs0108]

That’s solid I think it’s good for both sides. 

[LTS]

3 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Cut = waive aka send down to the AHL.

Why am I under the impression that you cannot bury a contract in the AHL or via loan to another team to save against the cap?

I remember that you USED to be able to bury people in the AHL for that purpose, but I thought they killed that.  It seems that if you could loan a player somewhere then every team would be able to solve their cap problems by doing that wouldn't they?