That Aud Smell Posted July 25, 2019 Report Posted July 25, 2019 On 7/25/2019 at 8:08 PM, nfreeman said: Is he a UFA after this year? Expand This says "no." https://www.capfriendly.com/players/evan-rodrigues 1 Quote
Tondas Posted July 25, 2019 Report Posted July 25, 2019 Starting to get interesting. Cap space at $3,115,476 with Jake and Linus still to go. JBOT has a plan but what is it? Quote
Zamboni Posted July 25, 2019 Report Posted July 25, 2019 On 7/25/2019 at 7:22 PM, Huckleberry said: I would not trade Larsson , he is an excellent 4C. Expand He’s a pretty good 4C. I guess I personally wouldn’t use the word excellent when describing Larsson. 1 Quote
Huckleberry Posted July 25, 2019 Report Posted July 25, 2019 On 7/25/2019 at 8:18 PM, Tondas said: Starting to get interesting. Cap space at $3,115,476 with Jake and Linus still to go. JBOT has a plan but what is it? Expand Scandella trade. 1 Quote
Zamboni Posted July 25, 2019 Report Posted July 25, 2019 On 7/25/2019 at 8:18 PM, Tondas said: Starting to get interesting. Cap space at $3,115,476 with Jake and Linus still to go. JBOT has a plan but what is it? Expand Shedding a D or two. Quote
Tondas Posted July 25, 2019 Report Posted July 25, 2019 On 7/25/2019 at 8:30 PM, Zamboni said: Shedding a D or two. Expand For picks, correct? Can't take on salary. Quote
shrader Posted July 25, 2019 Report Posted July 25, 2019 On 7/25/2019 at 8:06 PM, LTS said: Why am I under the impression that you cannot bury a contract in the AHL or via loan to another team to save against the cap? I remember that you USED to be able to bury people in the AHL for that purpose, but I thought they killed that. It seems that if you could loan a player somewhere then every team would be able to solve their cap problems by doing that wouldn't they? Expand You can bury PART of the contract in the AHL. I forget the specific number, but let's just pretend it's the NHL minimum. That is the amount that can be buried. Any amount over that figure still counts against the cap. So if a guy makes $2 million and the cutoff line is $600k, that player would still count as $1.4 million against the cap. This only counts for one-way contracts though. A two-way deal does not count against the cap if they're sent down. 3 Quote
Thorner Posted July 25, 2019 Report Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) On 7/25/2019 at 8:08 PM, nfreeman said: Is he a UFA after this year? Expand On 7/25/2019 at 8:13 PM, That Aud Smell said: This says "no." https://www.capfriendly.com/players/evan-rodrigues Expand Correct. He's 27 on July 1, 2021 though, so this will be his final deal that he's RFA at the end. I think this factors in to why they didn't go for something like a 3 year deal before the arb ruling kicked in. It would only be buying 1 UFA year. We'd be looking at a 4-5 year, 2-3 mil per deal this summer to avoid that, and that's more the province of Nashville. Botterill probably taking this season to evaluate whether or not he gets a long term deal. Edited July 25, 2019 by Thorny Quote
Taro T Posted July 25, 2019 Report Posted July 25, 2019 On 7/25/2019 at 8:43 PM, shrader said: You can bury PART of the contract in the AHL. I forget the specific number, but let's just pretend it's the NHL minimum. That is the amount that can be buried. Any amount over that figure still counts against the cap. So if a guy makes $2 million and the cutoff line is $600k, that player would still count as $1.4 million against the cap. This only counts for one-way contracts though. A two-way deal does not count against the cap if they're sent down. Expand You can bury ~$350k over the league minimum (don't have access to the exact $ amount at present) of a 1 way contract in the minors. So you can save a small amount by calling up somebody on a league minimum deal. But they get very little relief by doing so. The NHLPA didn't want anymore Reddens. They want vets that lose their jobs to get bought out if they are untradable rather than be buried permanently in the minors. Presumably once FA's they can negotiate a cheaper deal with somebody else. Quote
Brawndo Posted July 25, 2019 Report Posted July 25, 2019 Every Team has a second buyout period that begins after the last arbitration case Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 25, 2019 Report Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) On 7/25/2019 at 8:06 PM, LTS said: Why am I under the impression that you cannot bury a contract in the AHL or via loan to another team to save against the cap? I remember that you USED to be able to bury people in the AHL for that purpose, but I thought they killed that. It seems that if you could loan a player somewhere then every team would be able to solve their cap problems by doing that wouldn't they? Expand The CBA allows up to 1.075 cap savings per buried contract for contracts of 1.075 or greater. Contracts under 1.075 you get a dollar for dollar cap savings. Edited July 25, 2019 by GASabresIUFAN Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 26, 2019 Report Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 1yr 2 Million https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nhl/news/nhl-free-agency-2019-sabres-evan-rodrigues-awarded-2-million-contract/120tikxk8itwj14ofp4oviwzva Edited July 26, 2019 by GASabresIUFAN Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 26, 2019 Report Posted July 26, 2019 https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nhl/news/nhl-free-agency-2019-sabres-evan-rodrigues-awarded-2-million-contract/120tikxk8itwj14ofp4oviwzva Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 26, 2019 Report Posted July 26, 2019 Very reasonable. I actually thought it would be for a bit more. Why only 1 year? Quote
Thorner Posted July 26, 2019 Report Posted July 26, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 1:56 AM, New Scotland (NS) said: Very reasonable. I actually thought it would be for a bit more. Why only 1 year? Expand Team picks term b/c player initiated arbitration. They have the choice between 1 or 2 year deal, and a 2 year deal would have left him an UFA at time of expiry. 1 2 Quote
Tondas Posted July 26, 2019 Report Posted July 26, 2019 Article says E-Rod was awarded a contract. It this final or could the Sabres walk away? Quote
tom webster Posted July 26, 2019 Report Posted July 26, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 2:41 AM, Tondas said: Article says E-Rod was awarded a contract. It this final or could the Sabres walk away? Expand The Sabre’s confirmed they signed him to contact awarded by arbitration. The interesting thing is that by accepting the arbitration decision the Sabre’s are now able to initiate a buy out of another player when second buy out window opens. 2 2 Quote
Zamboni Posted July 26, 2019 Report Posted July 26, 2019 I’m fine with this. See if he has a nice year that proves his worth. Low risk. Quote
SwampD Posted July 26, 2019 Report Posted July 26, 2019 He’ll be underpaid. Term is in his favor, though. 1 Quote
GoPuckYourself Posted July 26, 2019 Report Posted July 26, 2019 I'm on the fence with Erod, I think he's just a guy taking up a spot to be honest, he's a hard worker but he really isn't great at any one particular thing imo. Hopefully he is upgraded next offseason, I think we can do better. 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted July 26, 2019 Report Posted July 26, 2019 I personally think it's a little high for him but the term/timing is perfect. If he gets even better and earns the 2 mil he will have proven he's worth signing longer term and if he doesn't, they can cut him loose. So it's reasonable either way. Now go prove it E-Rod. make yourself underpaid again. Quote
Thorner Posted July 26, 2019 Report Posted July 26, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 2:41 AM, Tondas said: Article says E-Rod was awarded a contract. It this final or could the Sabres walk away? Expand On 7/26/2019 at 2:58 AM, tom webster said: The Sabre’s confirmed they signed him to contact awarded by arbitration. The interesting thing is that by accepting the arbitration decision the Sabre’s are now able to initiate a buy out of another player when second buy out window opens. Expand Correct, but also, the Sabres were actually unable to walk away anyways due to the low AAV. 1 Quote
Curt Posted July 26, 2019 Report Posted July 26, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 6:06 AM, PerreaultForever said: If he gets even better and earns the 2 mil he will have proven he's worth signing longer term Expand What does he need to do to earn the $2M, in your opinion? Quote
LTS Posted July 26, 2019 Report Posted July 26, 2019 On 7/25/2019 at 8:43 PM, shrader said: You can bury PART of the contract in the AHL. I forget the specific number, but let's just pretend it's the NHL minimum. That is the amount that can be buried. Any amount over that figure still counts against the cap. So if a guy makes $2 million and the cutoff line is $600k, that player would still count as $1.4 million against the cap. This only counts for one-way contracts though. A two-way deal does not count against the cap if they're sent down. Expand Thanks. (and to the others that chimed in). Quote
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