What is Jake McCabe

[inkman]

I'm open to adding or amending any choices. These are just what came to mind first. 

[Huckleberry]

Bottom pair guy that can step up a bit if needed,  I'd give him 3 mill though.

[Sabel79]

Capable bottom-pair guy.  Nothing more.  Nothing wrong with that, either, provided he plays where he belongs.

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I need an option for a 4/5 guy.

[Eleven]

--The only mean defenseman left after Ristolainen is traded.

[Randall Flagg]

I like Jake McCabe. I wish he didn't miss so many games. 

[WildCard]

6 minutes ago, Eleven said:

--The only mean defenseman left after Ristolainen is traded.

Ristolainen has never fought anybody 

[Claude Balls]

23 minutes ago, Eleven said:

--The only mean defenseman left after Ristolainen is traded.

Psycho Bogo would like a word with you

[Eleven]

20 minutes ago, WildCard said:

Ristolainen has never fought anybody 

Didn't say he fights--he's mean.  Stick in the other guy's back (or worse) all the time.  If you're near his goalie after a whistle, expect a shove.  That stuff.  Too few Sabres defensemen have it.

3 minutes ago, Claude Balls said:

Psycho Bogo would like a word with you

Maybe...

[WildCard]

1 minute ago, Eleven said:

Didn't say he fights--he's mean.  Stick in the other guy's back (or worse) all the time.  If you're near his goalie after a whistle, expect a shove.  That stuff.  Too few Sabres defensemen have it.

Maybe...

Does it mean anything if he doesn't do anything with it? I get the impression nobody respects Risto's 'toughness'

[inkman]

57 minutes ago, ... said:

I need an option for a 4/5 guy.

Just pick one slash 

[North Buffalo]

30 minutes ago, WildCard said:

Does it mean anything if he doesn't do anything with it? I get the impression nobody respects Risto's 'toughness'

I think a few guys do including Ovi

[Derrico]

57 minutes ago, WildCard said:

Ristolainen has never fought anybody 

You don’t have to fight to be tough.  He’s doesn’t take crap after the whistle.

[SwampD]

Jake was always good for at least one "Oh, my God. Is that guy dead?" hit a game. He was also always good for at least one "Oh, my God. WTF was he thinking?!" play.

Before he got injured last year, I thought he did a good job not doing the latter and was playing well (one of our better defenseman, actually.)

My hope is that he learns to not always go for the kill shot and can end up playing more games.

[Derrico]

35 minutes ago, WildCard said:

Does it mean anything if he doesn't do anything with it? I get the impression nobody respects Risto's 'toughness'

If guys whack at the puck after the whistle he’s one of the only D that will do something about it.

[WildCard]

Just now, Derrico said:

You don’t have to fight to be tough.  He’s doesn’t take crap after the whistle.

He just seems like the 'hold me back bro' kinda guy

Just now, Derrico said:

If guys whack at the puck after the whistle he’s one of the only D that will do something about it.

And then they continue to whack because they know he's not gonna do anything 

[Tondas]

I like McCabe a lot.  Brings toughness and grit.  Reminds me of Mike Ramsey.  But I still had to go with 3rd pair.

[Derrico]

Just now, WildCard said:

He just seems like the 'hold me back bro' kinda guy

And then they continue to whack because they know he's not gonna do anything 

Disagree.  Atleast it’s something.  He and McCabe are the only guys that clear the crease, that’s why it keeps happening.  I don’t want to keep Risto solely for his physical play but I don’t think this is a quality that should be completely overlooked either.

[WildCard]

Just now, Derrico said:

Disagree.  Atleast it’s something.  He and McCabe are the only guys that clear the crease, that’s why it keeps happening.  I don’t want to keep Risto solely for his physical play but I don’t think this is a quality that should be completely overlooked either.

Does Risto actually clear the crease when it matters? i.e. during the play?

@Randall Flagg ?

[Derrico]

I love Dahlin.  I love Montour.  I love Pilut.  None of those guys come close to doing some of the physical work that Risto does.  Now rumours of Gardiner.  You can’t have all those types come playoff time (I know I know, let’s get there first).

1 minute ago, WildCard said:

Does Risto actually clear the crease when it matters? i.e. during the play?

@Randall Flagg ?

Is there even fancy stats available on that type of thing?? 

[WildCard]

1 minute ago, Derrico said:

I love Dahlin.  I love Montour.  I love Pilut.  None of those guys come close to doing some of the physical work that Risto does.  Now rumours of Gardiner.  You can’t have all those types come playoff time (I know I know, let’s get there first).

Is there even fancy stats available on that type of thing?? 

I was hoping he had video

[Randall Flagg]

Just now, WildCard said:

I was hoping he had video

Haha nah. I've dried up my video unfortunately - only watched 15 games or so 

This coming season I plan on having a lot more

[GASabresIUFAN]

He is a perfect 20 minute a night guy that can skate, be physical, add occasional O and complement a more free wheeling partner.  Hank Tallinder or Lydman as a comparison.

[Randall Flagg]

3 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

He is a perfect 20 minute a night guy that can skate, be physical, add occasional O and complement a more free wheeling partner.  Hank Tallinder or Lydman as a comparison.

I think those guys were much better puck movers than Jake is, and were also more polished with defense fundamentals. Each had stretches of incredible play here. 

[Derrico]

10 minutes ago, WildCard said:

I was hoping he had video

I absolutely love the video.  I really appreciate the time @Randall Flagg does.  Amazing poster.  But you can find random video examples of nearly anything.  I love it as a contributory post to a greater point.  Not as the sole basis of the point.