Sabres Trade Alex Nylander to Chicago for D Man Henri Jokiharju

[nfreeman]

5 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said:

So we should believe that both are similar because you said so? What are your credentials for scouting NHL talent?

This is obnoxious.

[GASabresIUFAN]

Jbot was serious about creating job competition.  It’s also a hint that Bogo won’t be healthy enough to start the season.  It also might verify Wildcard’s feeling that Risto is gone.  

[The Jokeman]

47 minutes ago, nfreeman said:

Also:  his nickname has to be "Joker," right?

Maybe ?

[Eleven]

9 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said:

So we should believe that both are similar because you said so? What are your credentials for scouting NHL talent?

All Ima say is that @dudacek is easily in the top 5% of people who know their stuff on this board, in my opinion.  You hang around here long enough, and you start to realize the differences among trolls, casual fans, crazy fans (most of us, incl. me), and people who actually know their stuff.

[Ogre]

9 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Also he had a lot of injuries already, he might turn into a top 9 for the blackhawks still.

I was going to point out the injuries but you beat me to it. He’s missed significant time in all of his pro seasons so far.

[GASabresIUFAN]

Oh yeah, another TM draft bust gets dumped on another team.  

[carpandean]

Can we get Joki his second 'j' in the title?  ?

I like the trade, but it definitely adds to the "something else is coming" feel of this offseason.

[Gatorman0519]

Build an elite defense, get better goaltending, and improve 5 on 5 scoring and you can get back in the thick of it.

[Weave]

27 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

@Weave you are 100% Correct about Nylander. 

 

Thanks, but which part was I correct about?

 

NM- saw upthread.  To be fair, most of it was based on other peoples observations.  It's not like we saw alot of him.

Edited July 9, 2019 by Weave

[French Collection]

I am excited to get this guy. I remember seeing him in the WJC, he was a key player for Finland. As some have stated, he played half a season in the NHL as a 19 year old, that means he's got game.

Good luck to Alex, I think he'll make it with Chicago but he doesn't seem to bring enough desire to have a lot of impact.

Can't wait to see Dahlin and Jokiharju lead the charge.

JBot, get us a 2C now, you have some currency.

[LGR4GM]

Great trade. We should have a little more faith in our GM after today. 

[dudacek]

12 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said:

So we should believe that both are similar because you said so? What are your credentials for scouting NHL talent?

I didn’t say both are similar, I said the internet will say this is a landslide for the Sabres, scouts will rank it more evenly.

I’ve barely seen Jokiharju play. But I read too much about hockey, and try to pay attention to both popular and professional opinions and I’m confident that what I posted is a realistic representation of what I’ve read. Use the info however you see fit.

Also, go puck yourself ?

[nfreeman]

9 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Oh yeah, another TM draft bust gets dumped on another team.   

So now the Blackhawks have brought in 2 prime GMTM Sabres debacles in Lehner and Nylander.

Hopefully Nylander will get it together like Lehner has done so far.

[Eleven]

1 minute ago, nfreeman said:

So now the Blackhawks have brought in 2 prime GMTM Sabres debacles in Lehner and Nylander.

Hopefully Nylander will get it together like Lehner has done so far.

Lehner was not a debacle in Buffalo.  He posted a .920 behind THAT team.

[WildCard]

 

[bob_sauve28]

7 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Great trade. We should have a little more faith in our GM after today. 

I'll wait until they actually start winning hockey games to have more faith in anyone 

[GASabresIUFAN]

4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Great trade. We should have a little more faith in our GM after today. 

I would have hoped that all the moves he has made since the ROR deal would have instilled some hope.  Since the ROR deal he has added Johansson, Skinner, Montour, Miller, Vesey, and Jokiharju for 3 questionable prospects (Guhle, Nylander and Pu,) some draft picks and without losing a roster player.  

[WildCard]

 

[Weave]

8 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said:

I'll wait until they actually start winning hockey games to have more faith in anyone 

Preach it.

But I like the offseason so far.

[nfreeman]

17 minutes ago, Eleven said:

Lehner was not a debacle in Buffalo.  He posted a .920 behind THAT team.

This is fair, but I think his last season here was a debacle.

 

13 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

I would have hoped that all the moves he has made since the ROR deal would have instilled some hope.  Since the ROR deal he has added Johansson, Skinner, Montour, Miller, Vesey, and Jokiharju for 3 questionable prospects (Guhle, Nylander and Pu,) some draft picks and without losing a roster player.  

All good on paper, but like any GM, he's responsible for delivering a winning team.  So far he's not even close.

[North Buffalo]

2 minutes ago, nfreeman said:

This is fair, but I think his last season here was a debacle.

 

All good on paper, but like any GM, he's responsible for delivering a winning team.  So far he's not even close.

Yeh Im still at Show Me stage...

[mphs mike]

One thing Botterill has shown is that the ROR disaster hasn't made him gun shy in remaking the roster. That, I view, as a good sign.

[Brawndo]

 

[LGR4GM]

This trade will be remembered very fondly by Sabres fan starting almost immediately. 

1 minute ago, Brawndo said:

 

19 year old kid did that. Mmmm love it. 

[jad1]

Just now, mphs mike said:

One thing Botterill has shown is that the ROR disaster hasn't made him gun shy in remaking the roster. That, I view, as a good sign.

He's shown that he's willing to trade picks and prospects.  He hasn't remade the roster yet.

The top six fowards are still a concern, and the team still needs to show it can play team defense, but  Botterill still has ample time before the season begins.