Brawndo Posted October 22, 2019 Author Report Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: This is turning into a real hockey trade Nylander 5gm 2g 2a 4pts +1 He is skating 11 minutes a game. Jokiharju 9gm 0g 3a +4 skating 16:30 per night. Jokiharju has some of the best advance metrics on the Sabres as well. Quote
dudacek Posted October 22, 2019 Report Posted October 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Jokiharju has some of the best advance metrics on the Sabres as well. Also leads the team in turnovers, apparently, something I hadn’t really noticed. Quote
inkman Posted October 22, 2019 Report Posted October 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, dudacek said: Also leads the team in turnovers, apparently, something I hadn’t really noticed. Which is interesting since some posters like to harp on Dahlin for this very issue ? Quote
SwampD Posted October 22, 2019 Report Posted October 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, inkman said: Which is interesting since some posters like to harp on Dahlin for this very issue ? Probably because Dahlin’s lead to goals. 1 Quote
Curt Posted October 23, 2019 Report Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Brawndo said: Jokiharju has some of the best advance metrics on the Sabres as well. And Alex Nylander’s advanced metrics are horribly terrible, and he’s been scratched a couple times so far this season. Quote
inkman Posted October 23, 2019 Report Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Curt said: And Alex Nylander’s advanced metrics are horribly terrible, and he’s been scratched a couple times so far this season. I think the commish would have rejected that trade in NHL20 or whatever they are calling it these days Quote
Doohicksie Posted October 23, 2019 Report Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) I saw this on another forum. The context was a thread from November 2018, discussing which young defensemen would be the best by 2021. This was the OP's list: Dahlin Heiskanen Chabot Provorov Werenski McAvoy Makar Jokiharju Girard Sergachev So basically out of Dahlin's contemporaries, according to some random guy on the internet (and several other posters who commented on that thread), we have two of the ten best on our club. They're both good and only getting better. I'm starting to think that with several of the moves made over the summer, JBot tried to achieve the best mix of young talent and veteran mentorship on the team. Edited October 23, 2019 by Doohickie Quote
PerreaultForever Posted October 23, 2019 Report Posted October 23, 2019 44 minutes ago, Doohickie said: I'm starting to think that with several of the moves made over the summer, JBot tried to achieve the best mix of young talent and veteran mentorship on the team. Which, is also how you manage the salary cap and build a team structure that can endure in this cap league, and not just have a small window that closes fast (like T-dot). Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted October 23, 2019 Report Posted October 23, 2019 15 hours ago, SwampD said: Probably because Dahlin’s lead to goals. Dahlin has been on the ice for a whopping 1 more goal against than Jokiharju. 1 Quote
SwampD Posted October 23, 2019 Report Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Dahlin has been on the ice for a whopping 1 more goal against than Jokiharju. I meant last year. He had some really bad giveaways that led to goals. People have really long memories when it is consistent with their narrative. Edited October 23, 2019 by SwampD Quote
Zamboni Posted October 23, 2019 Report Posted October 23, 2019 Both players in the trade are developing works in progress. Joker looks really nice right now playing mostly sheltered minutes. Perfect place for him this season. Quote
Popular Post WildCard Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Report Posted October 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: How's Nylander doing in Chicago? 1 8 1 Quote
triumph_communes Posted October 23, 2019 Report Posted October 23, 2019 Joki is only 20, but is being handled by Krueger as if he's a veteran. Unlike Dahlin, who is only a year younger. Speaks volumes. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 23, 2019 Report Posted October 23, 2019 36 minutes ago, triumph_communes said: Joki is only 20, but is being handled by Krueger as if he's a veteran. Unlike Dahlin, who is only a year younger. Speaks volumes. Not a huge surprise. Joker has always been more defensively responsible. It took Karlsson and Hedman time to develop their 2 way games. 1 Quote
Taro T Posted October 23, 2019 Report Posted October 23, 2019 59 minutes ago, Zamboni said: Both players in the trade are developing works in progress. Joker looks really nice right now playing mostly sheltered minutes. Perfect place for him this season. How are Jokiharju's minutes sheltered? He's on the 2nd PK pairing. Not trying to be argumentative, and have seen some sheltering, i.e., Scandella being out with Ristolainen late in the 3rd last night. But for the most part IMHO he hasn't been terribly sheltered. Quote
miles Posted October 23, 2019 Report Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) How are you supposed to pronounce his name. They say it different in the game vs the instigators . Which is correct Edited October 23, 2019 by miles Quote
Doohicksie Posted October 23, 2019 Report Posted October 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, miles said: How are you supposed to pronounce his name. They say it different in the game vs the instigators . Which is correct J is pronounced like a Y. Yo kee har yoo. 1 Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted October 23, 2019 Report Posted October 23, 2019 42 minutes ago, Doohickie said: J is pronounced like a Y. Yo kee har yoo. Where is he from? I can't remember. You are correct, if he hails from a Slavic nation. Quote
Doohicksie Posted October 23, 2019 Report Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, New Scotland (NS) said: Where is he from? I can't remember. You are correct, if he hails from a Slavic nation. Finland. Quote
bg17 Posted October 23, 2019 Report Posted October 23, 2019 48 minutes ago, miles said: How are you supposed to pronounce his name. They say it different in the game vs the instigators . Which is correct https://nhl.bamcontent.com/images/assets/binary/300636256/binary-file/file.pdf Pronunciation guide. 1 Quote
dudacek Posted October 23, 2019 Report Posted October 23, 2019 2 hours ago, triumph_communes said: Joki is only 20, but is being handled by Krueger as if he's a veteran. Unlike Dahlin, who is only a year younger. Speaks volumes. Dahlin plays more when the team needs offence. Joki plays more when the team needs defence. Dahlin is on the first unit PP, Joki on the 2nd unit PK. They both play in OT. Dahlin gets more minutes overall. Seems to me they are being handled very similarly. As in being used in a manner that best helps the team succeed. 3 Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted October 23, 2019 Report Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Doohickie said: Finland. Well, Finland is definitely not a Slavic language. Not saying that your idea on how to say his name is wrong, as I don't know. Finish is one of the hardest languages to figure out. Quote
Curt Posted October 23, 2019 Report Posted October 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, New Scotland (NS) said: Well, Finland is definitely not a Slavic language. Not saying that your idea on how to say his name is wrong, as I don't know. Finish is one of the hardest languages to figure out. To my understanding, the correct pronunciation is Yokee-har-yu Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted October 23, 2019 Report Posted October 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Curt said: To my understanding, the correct pronunciation is Yokee-har-yu That's what he said ... Quote
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