... Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) On 7/1/2019 at 3:51 PM, That Aud Smell said: Yes. Among other items from the blog cited upthread: When he played away from Howden, his xGA/60 at 5 on 5 went from a 3.03 to a 2.48 and his xGF% per 60 increased from 41.61% to a 51.26% according to Natural Stat Trick. Expand Yeah, but you said "adequate defensively". Edited July 1, 2019 by ... my binary was missing two bytes. whatever Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:52 PM, WildCard said: Right and I know that, but that doesn't mean their useless picks to have Expand Meh. It's a better use of a 3rd round pick than Botterill's love of trading up in the draft. 1 Quote
DarthEbriate Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 Ok --- so he's a 2nd/3rd line tweener (hopefully 3rd for us) that replaces Pominville at half the cost. Essentially a winger for Mitts or ERod this year? Or our mysterious Risto-acquired 2C if that player can generate and carry on his own. For a 3rd round pick. Sure. I'd like a bit more sandpaper though and boardwork from our wingers. Quote
... Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 I'm getting the Blase Thomas Golisano goosebumps! 2 Quote
erickompositör72 Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:57 PM, DarthEbriate said: Ok --- so he's a 2nd/3rd line tweener (hopefully 3rd for us) that replaces Pominville at half the cost. Essentially a winger for Mitts or ERod this year? Or our mysterious Risto-acquired 2C if that player can generate and carry on his own. For a 3rd round pick. Sure. I'd like a bit more sandpaper though and boardwork from our wingers. Expand right. It's hard for me to interpret criticism of this move as anything other than disdain for Vesey himself 2 Quote
... Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:59 PM, erickompositör72 said: right. It's hard for me to interpret criticism of this move as anything other than disdain for Vesey himself Expand Big world, small window. Quote
DarthEbriate Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:59 PM, ... said: I'm getting the Blase Thomas Golisano goosebumps! Expand That's better than the goosebumps caused by a blase tree goat. I hear those things carry all sorts of foul diseases. Never heard of the blase tree goat of Endor? They're real. Quote
nucci Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:59 PM, erickompositör72 said: right. It's hard for me to interpret criticism of this move as anything other than disdain for Vesey himself Expand Because he chose Rangers over Buffalo? Wouldn't you have? 1 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:55 PM, ... said: Yeah, but you said "adequate defensively". Expand Right. Quote
DarthEbriate Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 4:04 PM, nucci said: Because he chose Rangers over Buffalo? Wouldn't you have? Expand On a 2 year entry level deal, two years ago? Absolutely he made the right move coming out of school. Now he's got the chance to pull a Skinner and up his value before becoming UFA. He's just got to deliver. Maaaaaybe he and Jack are really good together, and Vesey can keep up with Jack and Skinner as Pommers couldn't for an entire season. That opens up Reinhart to be the RW on his on line. 2 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 Lol. 2 3rd rd picks for Jack’s buddy. He better score 30 as Jack’s wingman. 1 Quote
Stoner Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On a scale of 1-10 how awkward is this for Vesey? 2 4 Quote
... Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 4:11 PM, GASabresIUFAN said: Lol. 2 3rd rd picks for Jack’s buddy. He better score 30 as Jack’s wingman. Expand If he's slated for the first line Botterill needs to be fired immediately. 1 Quote
Carmel Corn Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) This team can really use goal scoring period, whether 2nd, 3rd or 4th line. Spending a 3rd round pick is a modest investment (Rangers were probably wanting more originally, but now they want Panarin so they cut loose Vesey to create more cap space). Vesey will want to test the market again as a UFA, so he will be motivated to have a career year. Buffalo can then maybe recoup the 3rd back from a team looking to add a rental at the trade deadline. I think this is a good value move. Edited July 1, 2019 by Carmel Corn 5 1 Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:14 PM, sodbuster said: I'm really gonna miss booing that guy. Expand You can still boo him, but for different reasons now. 1 Quote
DarthEbriate Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 4:14 PM, ... said: If he's slated for the first line Botterill needs to be fired immediately. Expand I don't think you slate him for 1st line. But those things will sort themselves out --- Kessel ended up a 3rd liner in Pittsburgh for offensive balance. The questions he needs to answer for the summer are: Does Vesey's addition as RW put Thompson in the AHL where he belongs? Does Vesey fill the Pominville gap? etc. 2 Quote
WildCard Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 4:14 PM, ... said: If he's slated for the first line Botterill needs to be fired immediately. Expand He plays LW, he'll be behind Olofsson and Skinner Quote
Taro T Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 4:14 PM, ... said: If he's slated for the first line Botterill needs to be fired immediately. Expand Doubt he's slated there, but unless at least 1 more RW gets brought in, he'll get a look. And putting a 3rd liner on that line might just work. It would at minimum put A 1st liner onto the 2nd line. (And no, not advocating for it at all. Just saying there might be far worse options.) Quote
Trettioåtta Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 4:20 PM, WildCard said: He plays LW, he'll be behind Olofsson and Skinner Expand Unless Olofsson moves to RW Quote
WildCard Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 4:21 PM, Trettioåtta said: Unless Olofsson moves to RW Expand He's never played RW, I don't expect him too to make room for Vesey Quote
klos1963 Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:44 PM, erickompositör72 said: I think your implication was obvious, and someone was just picking a fight ? Expand it wasn't obvious and I wasn't picking a fight. He said he hoped he's grown up since then, obvious implication. He has since clarified that. Not a big deal. 1 Quote
Taro T Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 4:20 PM, WildCard said: He plays LW, he'll be behind Olofsson and Skinner Expand They must be planning on trying him at RW or sliding Olofsson over. Because otherwise they've now got 5 LW's and only 1 useful RW. Quote
DarthEbriate Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 4:20 PM, WildCard said: He plays LW, he'll be behind Olofsson and Skinner Expand Yeah -- I see he's listed as LW in some places, but he played RW for the Rangers last year. But yes, if he's LW -- he's behind Skinner and Olofsson, except Olofsson played RW in his callup last year to get top line fun. I treat wingers like TIE fighters --- just throw 'em wherever. But as a center, I fly in the middle of the formation... preferably within a trench. 1 Quote
klos1963 Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 4:04 PM, nucci said: Because he chose Rangers over Buffalo? Wouldn't you have? Expand He chose the Rangers over 30 other teams, not just Buffalo. Murray trading for his rights didn't make us favorites or anything like that. Quote
... Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 Wingers don't need to identify with a side in the new NHL. That's part of why RK is here. The new model. Quote
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