Brawndo Posted July 1, 2019 Author Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:38 PM, Derrico said: Is this showing he’s a disaster defensively?? Expand Yep, a tad bit Quote
... Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 Not quite a clone, but effectively as ineffective defensively. Quote
erickompositör72 Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) On 7/1/2019 at 3:41 PM, klos1963 said: Choosing NYR over the Sabres means he hadn't grown up? Expand I pick living in NYC over Buffalo, and my wife tells me I need to grow up... Edited July 1, 2019 by erickompositör72 3 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:41 PM, darksabre said: And this roster is a better fit? Expand Quote
Carmel Corn Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:34 PM, WildCard said: He's a UFA after this year too, does anyone think he actually stays? Expand Hopefully we can get a 3rd round pick back for him at the trade deadline. Quote
Trettioåtta Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:41 PM, klos1963 said: Choosing NYR over the Sabres means he hadn't grown up? Expand Poorly worded - I meant more the appeal of a big city to go partying in may have been more attractive 3 years ago and he is less bothered by that now. Just speculating as to reasonable things that could mean his reasons for rejecting us the first time around aren't true now 1 Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:38 PM, WildCard said: Spending a pick on a replacement player for 1 year seems stupid Expand At best, a 3rd round pick in 2021 will be an NHL player of Vesey's caliber in....2025/6. I just can't imagine caring at all. 7 Quote
erickompositör72 Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:42 PM, Trettioåtta said: Poorly worded - I meant more the appeal of a big city to go partying in may have been more attractive 3 years ago and he is less bothered by that now. Just speculating as to reasonable things that could mean his reasons for rejecting us the first time around aren't true now Expand I think your implication was obvious, and someone was just picking a fight ? Quote
darksabre Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:43 PM, TrueBlueGED said: At best, a 3rd round pick in 2021 will be an NHL player of Vesey's caliber in....2025/6. I just can't imagine caring at all. Expand Right. It's not like this is a bad trade. It's just not an interesting one either. 1 Quote
Stoner Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:40 PM, That Aud Smell said: the write-up at diebytheblade provided some context on his linemates, and how his performance improved away from certain players (who are dumpster fires defensively). Expand Are you and at least one other trying too hard? On the face of it, the Rangers gave him up for a bag of pucks. The whole offseason so far has been a trip down to the Dollar Store with gramma. 4 Quote
Brawndo Posted July 1, 2019 Author Report Posted July 1, 2019 McCabe was the original rumored piece going to NY. I’ll take this deal anyway over that 7 Quote
nucci Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:34 PM, WildCard said: He's a UFA after this year too, does anyone think he actually stays? Expand he didn't want to come here a few years ago, so no.....he doesn't stay 1 Quote
erickompositör72 Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:43 PM, TrueBlueGED said: At best, a 3rd round pick in 2021 will be an NHL player of Vesey's caliber in....2025/6. I just can't imagine caring at all. Expand The pick's ceiling would probably be Vesey, and could realistically not make the NHL 1 Quote
... Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 Yeah. At least Botterill had a good reason to take a chance on Sheary. Quote
WildCard Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:43 PM, TrueBlueGED said: At best, a 3rd round pick in 2021 will be an NHL player of Vesey's caliber in....2025/6. I just can't imagine caring at all. Expand At best is definitely not true; it's likely but not definite. And it's another asset we could have used elsewhere 1 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:45 PM, PASabreFan said: Are you and at least one other trying too hard? On the face of it, the Rangers gave him up for a bag of pucks. The whole offseason so far has been a trip down to the Dollar Store with gramma. Expand Get out of here with that nonsense. It's an underwhelming addition, by any measure. I was simply pointing out that there's analysis to suggest that he can be adequate defensively if paired with a more responsible line mate. Damning with faint praise, if anything. Quote
... Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) This was a waste of a third, no matter how bad a third projects to be. Edited July 1, 2019 by ... Benadryl Quote
LTS Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:47 PM, WildCard said: At best is definitely not true; it's likely but not definite. And it's another asset we could have used elsewhere Expand Well, like I saw posted somewhere (here or Twitter). He's going into UFA the following season. If he commands more as a trade during the season and the Sabres flip him for better assets, then does it matter? The game isn't over today. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:47 PM, WildCard said: At best is definitely not true; it's likely but not definite. And it's another asset we could have used elsewhere Expand Actually, the likely outcome is that pick doesn't have a meaningful NHL career. Quote
... Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:48 PM, That Aud Smell said: I was simply pointing out that there's analysis to suggest that he can be adequate defensively if paired with a more responsible line mate. Expand There is? Quote
darksabre Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:48 PM, ... said: This was a waste of a third, no matter how bad a third projects to be. Expand lol no it's not. 1 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:49 PM, ... said: There is? Expand Yes. Among other items from the blog cited upthread: When he played away from Howden, his xGA/60 at 5 on 5 went from a 3.03 to a 2.48 and his xGF% per 60 increased from 41.61% to a 51.26% according to Natural Stat Trick. Quote
WildCard Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:49 PM, TrueBlueGED said: Actually, the likely outcome is that pick doesn't have a meaningful NHL career. Expand Right and I know that, but that doesn't mean their useless picks to have Quote
Thorner Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) On 7/1/2019 at 3:49 PM, TrueBlueGED said: Actually, the likely outcome is that pick doesn't have a meaningful NHL career. Expand He's just saying it's not certain the 3rd will end up with an inferior career. Even though that's the most likely case. Edited July 1, 2019 by Thorny 1 Quote
Huckleberry Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 I think we'll see a bunch of trades happen. 1 Quote
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