Hoss Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: Which, if true, makes you think it's not a "Rochester signing" and the intent is to use him on the Sabres. So... I don’t think that’s an indication one way or the other. I don’t think they’d care if they lost Lazar. It’s a Rochester signing. 1 Quote
Wyldnwoody44 Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 .... Jbot should be immediately fired for this move. Stolen from ho-chi sock ??? 1 Quote
Huckleberry Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 5 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: Which, if true, makes you think it's not a "Rochester signing" and the intent is to use him on the Sabres. So... a big pile of it. Guess he'll get a shot to prove himself, but most likely he is still heading for Rochester. Quote
Ho-Chi-Sock Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Wyldnwoody44 said: .... Jbot should be immediately fired for this move. Stolen from ho-chi sock ??? Not just fired, but fired from a cannon for this dreadful, franchise-destroying move. Did he learn nothing from the Okposo fiaso?!?!? Quote
French Collection Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 Lazar was a good prospect and he captained Canada's U20 team. He hasn't done anything at the NHL level to make us get excited. Hope he works hard and helps out as a depth player. This is probably his last chance. 1 Quote
Sabel79 Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 He will likely never play a regular-season game with the Sabres. Moving on... Quote
Taro T Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 8 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: Which, if true, makes you think it's not a "Rochester signing" and the intent is to use him on the Sabres. So... a big pile of it. How do you figure that? It's not like he's going to be getting $3MM and sending him down would leave an almost $2MM cap hit; he'll be making about $1MM and won't count against the cap when he's sent down. This signing is Cal O'Reilly (hopefully minus the rookie hazing). He's being brought in with the expectation he'll play in Ra-cha-cha but will be given an opportunity to win a job in September. Not likely he'll effectively take advantage of that opportunity because he isn't very good. And when he's sent down, he'll likely clear waivers because he probably won't be better than anybody else's 4LW and nobody else will want to pay him an NHL salary to work in the AHL. This is a Pegulabuck signing. They want the Amerks to have a winning atmosphere for the youth they're trying to develop, and this signing helps with that. 4 1 Quote
Zamboni Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Taro T said: How do you figure that? It's not like he's going to be getting $3MM and sending him down would leave an almost $2MM cap hit; he'll be making about $1MM and won't count against the cap when he's sent down. This signing is Cal O'Reilly (hopefully minus the rookie hazing). He's being brought in with the expectation he'll play in Ra-cha-cha but will be given an opportunity to win a job in September. Not likely he'll effectively take advantage of that opportunity because he isn't very good. And when he's sent down, he'll likely clear waivers because he probably won't be better than anybody else's 4LW and nobody else will want to pay him an NHL salary to work in the AHL. This is a Pegulabuck signing. They want the Amerks to have a winning atmosphere for the youth they're trying to develop, and this signing helps with that. And if it all goes to plan like you laid out ... it’s a good signing for the Amerks. I think part of the problem with a section of Sabres fans (not naming anyone in particular so relax sensitive fans) is they don’t think of any team beyond the NHL Buffalo Sabres. No thought or care about Amerks, Junior leagues, Euro leagues etc. I will agree that if Lazar is on the regular season (not meaningless preseason) games, baring injury to a 4th liner, then something is wrong. These small signings help tremendously to the overall health of the franchise as a whole. At least that’s how I see it. Edited June 30, 2019 by Zamboni 2 Quote
pi2000 Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 Lazar is does not fit the mold for the type of player they're looking to add to Roch. It's not happening. Quote
PerreaultForever Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Taro T said: How do you figure that? It's not like he's going to be getting $3MM and sending him down would leave an almost $2MM cap hit; he'll be making about $1MM and won't count against the cap when he's sent down. This signing is Cal O'Reilly (hopefully minus the rookie hazing). He's being brought in with the expectation he'll play in Ra-cha-cha but will be given an opportunity to win a job in September. Not likely he'll effectively take advantage of that opportunity because he isn't very good. And when he's sent down, he'll likely clear waivers because he probably won't be better than anybody else's 4LW and nobody else will want to pay him an NHL salary to work in the AHL. This is a Pegulabuck signing. They want the Amerks to have a winning atmosphere for the youth they're trying to develop, and this signing helps with that. Oh you are probably right and it's really a big non issue. I just would have thought if you sign a guy with the Amerks in mind you give him a 2 way contract to motivate him. It's no big either way. 1 Quote
DarthEbriate Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 It's a good signing. It's puts Larsson on notice if he doesn't impress, he'll be going to Rochester. And it tells O'Regan and Asplund that if they want to anchor the top line on the Amerks, they can't slouch. You want to play for this team? You're going to have to compete even for ROC time. Quote
Formerly Allan in MD Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 10:03 PM, Neo said: I really liked him his draft year ... Many did. Could never make the final step successfully. But he's still young. Rochester should like him in any case. Quote
Pimlach Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 18 hours ago, pi2000 said: Lazar is does not fit the mold for the type of player they're looking to add to Roch. It's not happening. Interesting take. Why do you think this? I thought JBot was looking for players to help Rochester as we will see Olofsson in Buffalo, maybe Nylander too. Quote
Taro T Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 According to Puckpedia (bought out NHL Numbers), Lazar's deal is for $700k. If correct, he's even more AHL bound than we'd expected. Quote
tom webster Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 20 hours ago, pi2000 said: Lazar is does not fit the mold for the type of player they're looking to add to Roch. It's not happening. Have any of your guarantees been correct? 2 Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, tom webster said: Have any of your guarantees been correct? Just wait for this season when Matthews scores 8 goals because he got his money and is now lazy! 1 1 Quote
Curt Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 Just now, darksabre said: But why To play in Rochester. Quote
woods-racer Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 1 hour ago, darksabre said: But why It appears GMJB is at the very least adding some decent players to Rochester and maybe hoping that one of these prospects just needs a change of scenery to live up to their draft potential. It's a way to bring in talent that is low cost and he doesn't need to waste picks and prospects on them. I can't really see a downside. Quote
Taro T Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Would the GM ever say he expected anything less? Quote
darksabre Posted July 1, 2019 Report Posted July 1, 2019 Just now, Taro T said: Would the GM ever say he expected anything less? Of course not. This is typical "creating competition" boilerplate. Quote
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