Wyldnwoody44 Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 46 minutes ago, MODO Hockey said: Why put ur money on Duch? I wouldnt mind, but i rather get more width on the team. MODO, it's just a joke, ho-chi has been saying this for weeks about Botteril being fired, no matter what he does and I love it ?? It's all in jest my man, some funnin in the summer ? Quote
erickompositör72 Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 1 hour ago, jahnyc said: I think he really fumbled those questions about Risto. Seems possible that RIsto did ask out of Buffalo based on his response and he did not really address the first question. Maybe Risto just didn't want to play for Housley, and is willing to give it a shot with Krueger. We'll never know, and JBott has no obligation to fill us in on these things Quote
Formerly Allan in MD Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 What will we want/get for Risto? 8 hours ago, nucci said: Our D is not that good...until you show me a Bill Hajt or Mike Ramsey I'm not convinced. We have a lot of average players right now. Now you're talking defense. One can only hope. Quote
Marvin Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Taro T said: As stated in the response to PerreaultForever, didn't say this D IS better than the '74-'75 D merely that it may be. And I doubt we'll get a chance to find out if it would be better or not, as I expect at least 1 of these guys (likely Ristolainen) gets traded away this off-season. For reference, that defence was very good, even if it was hardly the best in the league: Schoenfeld -- Korab Hajt -- Guevremont Carriere -- Fogolin / McIntosh That top 4 was very good and very well-rounded. Carriere never impressed me while Fogolin and McIntosh were rookies and often showed it. Did you know: When Bill Hajt retired in 1987, the list of retired players with better team-adjusted +/- ratings was Bobby Orr and Bobby Clarke. That's it. (Source: The Klein and Reif Hockey Compendium, 1987) 2 1 3 Quote
Derrico Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 2 hours ago, That Aud Smell said: I heard Suban fetched a modest return. Risto will yield more because ________? Contract. But this is two hours later so I bet I won’t be the first to post this. 1 Quote
nucci Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 5 hours ago, TrueBlueGED said: Dahlin continues to be underrated defensively. I'm not dismissing him at all. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, Derrico said: Contract. But this is two hours later so I bet I won’t be the first to post this. Ivan wants 8 yrs at $8 mill from the Flyers. While a better player then Risto, that contract demand makes Risto’s deal look like a bargain. 2 Quote
Drunkard Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 9 hours ago, That Aud Smell said: Yeah - it’s a cap dump. Fair post. Bear in mind Risto’s reported inability to be coached, his insistence on freelancing, and his evident low hockey IQ. If he's such a nightmare to coach why has every coach we've had fed him minutes like he's shea Weber in his prime? You'd think if he was that hard to coach at least one of our coaches would have found a way to limit his ice time. 3 Quote
Drunkard Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 4 hours ago, TrueBlueGED said: And I'm not even remotely confident in Krueger picking the 1 combination out of 4 that might work. Part of why I'm so gung-ho about trading Risto is to prevent coaches from being their own worst enemy. Never mind my previous post. I get it. The coaches have all been idiots. Carry on. 2 Quote
Randall Flagg Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 42 minutes ago, Drunkard said: If he's such a nightmare to coach why has every coach we've had fed him minutes like he's shea Weber in his prime? You'd think if he was that hard to coach at least one of our coaches would have found a way to limit his ice time. player usage is at the root of why Phil's teams sucked so bad that he got fired after only two seasons. Using that usage as justification for its own existence is pretty damn circular given that all coaches involved will probably never be an NHL HC again Quote
Stoner Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 Affordable castoff with potential who should be burning up inside to prove amateur scouts, the Bruins and the Golden Knights wrong. Fair? Quote
bob_sauve28 Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 4 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Baloo 2? Scandella 2.0 maybe Quote
Hoss Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: Scandella 2.0 maybe Scandella and Baloo never produced nearly at the level Miller has the last two seasons. Quote
GoPuckYourself Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 If we've learned anything from the O'Reilly trade it's that we should keep our good and great players. Keep Ristolainen and sign a #2 center, simple as that. Quote
Hoss Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 1 minute ago, GoPuckYourself said: If we've learned anything from the O'Reilly trade it's that we should keep our good and great players. Keep Ristolainen and sign a #2 center, simple as that. Signing a number two center is simple? Quote
Taro T Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Hoss said: Signing a number two center is simple? Easy as Aho. ? 3 2 Quote
pi2000 Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: Scandella 2.0 maybe Not even close. Miller's hockey IQ is superior to Beaulieu and Scandella. Plus he can absolutely fly. Quote
nucci Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 28 minutes ago, Hoss said: Signing a number two center is simple? Trading one was Quote
etiennep99 Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 Maybe, just maybe, part of the reason why we got Colin Miller instead of the other teams run by "idiot" GMs (Chevy, Benning) is exactly because the Vegas Knights don't think that they have anything to fear from the Sabres since the Sabres are in the Eastern Conference and aren't even likely to make the play-offs? Quote
Hoss Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, nucci said: Trading one was It’s certainly easier to get rid of them than it is to acquire one Edited June 30, 2019 by Hoss 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 14 hours ago, Taro T said: But this is (on paper) the best the Sabres have had since that '74-'75 squad and it has the POTENTIAL to be the best SABRES D in forever. Sorry, I still say you are overrating most of them (except Dahlin and his potential, since he MIGHT be our best D ever if development continues). This full unit now is a B grade D, possibly a B+ if Risto gets fixed by the new system/coaches. Before adding Montour and Miller I'd have rated it a C on a good night. So getting better, but far to go. Quote
nucci Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 Why do we have to trade Risto? Most likely Bogo and Scandella are gone next season and will have to be replaced. 2 Quote
Hoss Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 2 hours ago, nucci said: Why do we have to trade Risto? Most likely Bogo and Scandella are gone next season and will have to be replaced. We don’t have to, but Bogo and Scandella leaving shouldn’t be a deterrent. 1 Quote
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