WildCard Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: Gotta be retention there on Edmonton's end? Otherwise the Flames must think Lucic is useful as a player still? I still don't get the rationale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, WildCard said: I still don't get the rationale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 EDM is retaining some salary and including a conditional draft pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 All I can think of is all those people who say we can't ever make a trade with Toronto. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 hour ago, shrader said: All I can think of is all those people who say we can't ever make a trade with Toronto. I'll trade Toronto Okposo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 hour ago, WildCard said: I'll trade Toronto Okposo We have Kyle's worse younger brother too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 3 hours ago, shrader said: All I can think of is all those people who say we can't ever make a trade with Toronto. We can but I have no interest in doing so with any player of note. There is little worse than making a significant trade with a division rival and coming out the loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 David Clarkson’s Contract is heading to Toronto for Garrett Sparks per Friedman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Why would the Laffs do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 33 minutes ago, Tondas said: Why would the Laffs do this? Apparently between Clarkson and Horton both on LTIR, the Leafs will get an additional $10.5 mil in cap space once the season starts. They will probably wait til the season begins to announce a Marner extension.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Brawndo said: David Clarkson’s Contract is heading to Toronto for Garrett Sparks per Friedman 1 hour ago, Tondas said: Why would the Laffs do this? Because he still "bleeds Loaf blue" and wants to retire a Loaf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorner Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 25 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Apparently between Clarkson and Horton both on LTIR, the Leafs will get an additional $10.5 mil in cap space once the season starts. They will probably wait til the season begins to announce a Marner extension.... But if they have the space now on the roster/cap to fit Clarkson, all Clarkson going on LTIR does is give you that space back. It's not like they are getting access to addition cap by having more LTIR guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, Thorny said: But if they have the space now on the roster/cap to fit Clarkson, all Clarkson going on LTIR does is give you that space back. It's not like they are getting access to addition cap by having more LTIR guys. True. Figured the deal was to free up cap space by having a cheaper backup goalie, but Sparks is making league minimum. Haven't looked at Clarkson's contract, maybe they were afraid of cap recapture should he retire? (Again, not sure if it was a potential issue, but if the contract was heavily front loaded, that MIGHT have been a consideration.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Twitter thread on how the move helps the Leafs' cap situation with re-signing Marner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 43 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Twitter thread on how the move helps the Leafs' cap situation with re-signing Marner. So now would be the time to offer sheet Marner?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 The LTIR crap needs to be addressed next CBA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, WildCard said: The LTIR crap needs to be addressed next CBA Well, the way the Leaves are allowed to manipulate it does. That's for sure. I don't know for sure, but I can't recall any other team pulling this kind of blantant shenanigans. Only in The Great Satan will this be a thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorner Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, TrueBlueGED said: Twitter thread on how the move helps the Leafs' cap situation with re-signing Marner. I kinda get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, New Scotland (NS) said: Well, the way the Leaves are allowed to manipulate it does. That's for sure. I don't know for sure, but I can't recall any other team pulling this kind of blantant shenanigans. Only in The Great Satan will this be a thing. Tampa pulled it with Callahan, Chicago pulled it with Hossa, Montreal will pull it with Weber, and Minnesota will pull it with Parise and Suter Edited July 24, 2019 by WildCard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, WildCard said: Tampa pulled it with Callahan, Chicago pulled it with Hossa, Montreal will pull it with Weber, and Minnesota will pull it with Parise and Suter Callahan looks like it (I can't remember was he not playing at the time?). Hossa, I don't think is the same thing. And the other are not likely, as the rules behind this nonsense are going to change in the next CBA, that I agree with you on. I think that both of them in Minny will finish their contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) I'm sort of serious with the offer sheet to Marner thing. If someone offer sheeted him now, wouldn't the Leafs have to match it now and the LTIR wouldn't work since they would need to be under the Cap before the season started, thereby making the LTIR moot, or at least putting the Leafs in jam. Edited July 24, 2019 by Tondas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, New Scotland (NS) said: Callahan looks like it (I can't remember was he not playing at the time?). Hossa, I don't think is the same thing. And the other are not likely, as the rules behind this nonsense are going to change in the next CBA, that I agree with you on. I think that both of them in Minny will finish their contracts. We'll see, but honestly Hossa's LTIR deal is widely regarded as BS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Tondas said: I'm sort of serious with the offer sheet to Marner thing. If someone offer sheeted him now, wouldn't the Leafs have to match it now and the LTIR wouldn't work since they would need to be under the Cap before the season started, thereby making the LTIR moot, or at least putting the Leafs in jam. Marner still has to be willing to sign, I bet they already talked it all out with him and his agent. If not then taking on clarkson's contract was the dumbest move they could have done. Edited July 24, 2019 by Huckleberry 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 41 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: If not then taking on clarkson's contract was the dumbest move they could have done. Here's hoping. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 7 hours ago, Tondas said: I'm sort of serious with the offer sheet to Marner thing. If someone offer sheeted him now, wouldn't the Leafs have to match it now and the LTIR wouldn't work since they would need to be under the Cap before the season started, thereby making the LTIR moot, or at least putting the Leafs in jam. Well sure, but it takes two. There isn't any indication Marner wants to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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