2019 Free Agency Thread (Non-Sabres)

[Randall Flagg]

5 hours ago, Weave said:

17 goals last season.  I didn’t see him play last season but if there is still gas in the tank he might be a good fit on Casey’s wing.

From what I have seen of him and read, he's pretty fried, or verrrrrrrrrry close to it anyway. 

If only those 2009-2011 Sabres teams could have had Simmonds...

[Hoss]

10 hours ago, LTS said:

My guess is that he's going to get an Okposo like contract... and if that's the case I think you have to steer clear.  However, if he's coming in on the right contract I would take him.

I remain genuinely curious just how much the expansion draft and the upcoming collective bargaining expiration will have on how GMs are trying to build their teams.  Any NMC's handed out now have to be done with care unless you want to get screwed over at the expansion draft (like the Knights were able to do to teams).

I'm sure it will be chock full of stupid though.. as usual.

No way on him getting an Okposo deal. He’ll get a short term deal, maybe even one year.

[Brawndo]

Karlsson’s New Deal is 8 years 6 Million AAV 

[dudacek]

So we have to be talking to Vegas, right?

They needed to close Wild Bill before making their next move.

Running out of cap-crunch targets here.

[darksabre]

1 minute ago, dudacek said:

So we have to be talking to Vegas, right?

They needed to close Wild Bill before making their next move.

Running out of cap-crunch targets here.

I would assume Vegas is Botterill's primary trade target. There's players on that team that seem to fit Botterill. 

[Sabel79]

2 minutes ago, dudacek said:

So we have to be talking to Vegas, right?

They needed to close Wild Bill before making their next move.

Running out of cap-crunch targets here.

Vegas is $2 million over the cap before Karlsson's new deal gets added in; they have to make some moves.

[Randall Flagg]

2 minutes ago, darksabre said:

I would assume Vegas is Botterill's primary trade target. There's players on that team that seem to fit Botterill. 

I'm not sure how they did it but they have so many legitimately good hockey players. I think they're easily in the WCFs if that major penalty doesn't get called. They were playing some of the best team hockey I've seen in a while. And I think they'll contend again next season. 

1 minute ago, Sabel79 said:

Vegas is $2 million over the cap before Karlsson's new deal gets added in; they have to make some moves.

What was Karlsson making before this contract?

Edited June 23, 2019 by Randall Flagg

[dudacek]

5 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said:

I'm not sure how they did it but they have so many legitimately good hockey players. I think they're easily in the WCFs if that major penalty doesn't get called. And I think they'll contend again next season. 

What was Karlsson making before this contract?

Think he was on a one-year prove-it deal at just over $5 million.

Edited June 23, 2019 by dudacek

[Sabel79]

2 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said:

 

What was Karlsson making before this contract?

His cap hit was $5.25M, but that's not factored in to the current number per CapFriendly.

Edited June 23, 2019 by Sabel79
I'm an idiot who can't read.

[TrueBlueGED]

23 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

Karlsson’s New Deal is 8 years 6 Million AAV 

There's one RFA target off the books before the purported "offer sheet offseason" even begins. Shocking.

Anyway, that's a pretty sweetheart deal for Vegas, damn. 

[Hoss]

30 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

Karlsson’s New Deal is 8 years 6 Million AAV 

He should fire his agent.

[Sabres Fan in NS]

1 minute ago, Hoss said:

He should fire his agent.

I think he really likes Vegas and gave the team a bigish discount.  His agent, no doubt, did what he asked.

[#freejame]

1 minute ago, New Scotland (NS) said:

I think he really likes Vegas and gave the team a bigish discount.  His agent, no doubt, did what he asked.

Friendlier tax state as well 

[Sabres Fan in NS]

1 minute ago, #freejame said:

Friendlier tax state as well 

I'm no expert, just a regular CPA, but it seems that the way it works that is not as big an advantage as many think.  I think @TrueBlueGED explained it some time ago, but he used big words and numbers.

[#freejame]

Just now, New Scotland (NS) said:

I'm no expert, just a regular CPA, but it seems that the way it works that is not as big an advantage as many think.  I think @TrueBlueGED explained it some time ago, but he used big words and numbers.

In baseball where you’re playing on that particular day decides your tax level. I would assume hockey is similar. But I don’t believe bonus payouts are applied like this. 

[Sabres Fan in NS]

3 minutes ago, #freejame said:

In baseball where you’re playing on that particular day decides your tax level. I would assume hockey is similar. But I don’t believe bonus payouts are applied like this. 

I think you are right, or mostly right.  It is something like that.

[Hoss]

Seeing players sign cheaper deals elsewhere is a unique thing that I’ll never understand because it simply does not happen here. Can we please build something meaningful?

[Thorner]

2 hours ago, darksabre said:

I would assume Vegas is Botterill's primary trade target. There's players on that team that seem to fit Botterill. 

You are usually pretty good with these, so I'm keeping and eye on Vegas. 

2 hours ago, Randall Flagg said:

I'm not sure how they did it but they have so many legitimately good hockey players. I think they're easily in the WCFs if that major penalty doesn't get called. They were playing some of the best team hockey I've seen in a while. And I think they'll contend again next season. 

What was Karlsson making before this contract?

I think they would have won the cup. 

[Randall Flagg]

Tiers of players that we could possibly court or sign:
Yes please
Artemi Panarin
Joonas Donskoi
Ryan Dzingel
Brett Connolly
Brandon Tanev
one of Jordie Benn or Patrik Nemeth or Tim Heed
Sure, fine
Matt Duchene
Sergei Bobrovsky
SJ Joes
Gus Nyqvist
Marcus Johansson
Anton Stralman
Zucc
Oscar Lindberg
Richard Panik
Gardiner
Michael Ferland
Ryan Carpenter
No
Corey Perry
Jason Spezza
Dion
Tyler Myers
Anders Lee
Dan Girardi
Marcus Kruger
Filppula
Troy Brouwer
Wayne Simmonds

I know I missed plenty of names but yeah. This is obviously not ranked in order of how good I think the players are, just their fits on Sabres teams of the next few years as UFA.
 

Edited June 24, 2019 by Randall Flagg

[WildCard]

Joonas Donskoi
Ryan Dzingel
Brett Connolly
Brandon Tanev

100% yes, especially those first two

[dudacek]

Once I factor in what I expect the player to cost, I struggle to come up with anyone in free agency that excites me.

[WildCard]

16 minutes ago, WildCard said:

Joonas Donskoi
Ryan Dzingel
Brett Connolly
Brandon Tanev

100% yes, especially those first two

 

11 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Once I factor in what I expect the player to cost, I struggle to come up with anyone in free agency that excites me.

Those 4 definitely should

[dudacek]

7 minutes ago, WildCard said:

 

Those 4 definitely should

What might excite me: Dzingel or Donskoi 4 years @16 million,  Connolly 3 years @10 million

What they will get: Dzingel or Donskoi 5-6 years @25-30 million,  Connolly 4 years @16 million

 

Tanev might be available at something more reasonable.

Edited June 24, 2019 by dudacek

[WildCard]

2 minutes ago, dudacek said:

What will excite me: Dzingel or Donskoi 4 years @16 million,  Connolly 3 years @10 million

What they will get: Dzingel or Donskoi 5-6 years @25-30 million,  Connolly 4 years @6 millon

I mean they put up some really solid numbers with garbage average time on ice. I'd love to overpay for those guys for that contract length; they'll be in their early 30s at the end of it

[darksabre]

Donskoi is my ideal middle six signing, but I do think he's going to cost too much given that he's more 3rd line than 2nd line in that middle six.