inkman Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 Amerks get smoked 4-1 and it wasn't that close. This team is in a free fall I haven't witnessed outside of the Sabres. They have lost 7 in a row. None of the reinforcements made it to Hershey so Paetsch and Gilmore were playing forward. UPL looked below average giving up a couple softies. Can't wait to see them in person Friday.
Ogre Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 The Amerks have been aggressively attempting to convince me to renew my seats. “Free first and second round playoff tickets!..*signs of desperation*...” The ticket rep didn’t even know the layout of BCA but was positive they’d go deep this year....I really love watching hockey live but I can get a random ticket for a random night. It’s been a six year run on seasons but if these fools fall short I’m done. You can take your seat(which I’m pretty sure the seat two down from me was pissed on by the special needs middle aged adult sitting there last Friday judging by the overwhelming smell of piss) and sell it to some other dope. I need a ***** break. 1
Taro T Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) Remi Elie w/ the Amerks 1st shot of the game nearly 4 minutes in buried the wrister. Amerks 1 Monsters 0. Edited January 23, 2020 by Taro T
Taro T Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 Mittelstadt with the takeaway and ensuing wrister. 2-0 Amerks. 1
Taro T Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 Johansson had about 4 huge saves in the last minute + to get out of the period w/ the 2 goal lead.
dudacek Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 So, from what I've seen of Mittelstadt in Rochester, he is making some of those wow plays that we saw in junior, and haven't in the NHL, those high-energy flurries that attack the puck carrier, or the defender, and his quick shot and hands. And we've also seen turnovers and broken plays caused by the same. My question is from a development standpoint: Do we want him to keep trying this stuff until the successful attempts clearly outweigh the groaners? Or do we want him to start relearning the game so he's doing less of that and playing more team-oriented game? 1
Andrew Amerk Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, dudacek said: So, from what I've seen of Mittelstadt in Rochester, he is making some of those wow plays that we saw in junior, and haven't in the NHL, those high-energy flurries that attack the puck carrier, or the defender, and his quick shot and hands. And we've also seen turnovers and broken plays caused by the same. My question is from a development standpoint: Do we want him to keep trying this stuff until the successful attempts clearly outweigh the groaners? Or do we want him to start relearning the game so he's doing less of that and playing more team-oriented game? Whatever makes him a contributor.
Taro T Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 Beautiful tic-tac-toe passing play on the PP from Pilut to Asplund to Mittelstadt was robbed by the Clevelane goalie. About 30 seconds later the other PP unit w/ Redmond & Gilmour got beat for a shorty.
Taro T Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, dudacek said: So, from what I've seen of Mittelstadt in Rochester, he is making some of those wow plays that we saw in junior, and haven't in the NHL, those high-energy flurries that attack the puck carrier, or the defender, and his quick shot and hands. And we've also seen turnovers and broken plays caused by the same. My question is from a development standpoint: Do we want him to keep trying this stuff until the successful attempts clearly outweigh the groaners? Or do we want him to start relearning the game so he's doing less of that and playing more team-oriented game? We need him to figure out what will work and, more importantly, what won't at the NHL level. Which means he has to learn how to play the simpler 'take what the opponent gives you' game. But, not sure how well he'll learn that in the AHL because he IS better (or at least more skilled) than most all the guys he's playing against. He's looked good today. Had 2 errant passes and another right to Nelson that was mishandled and required a superlative backcheck from Nelson to prevent a breakaway. But that was pretty much it for ooopsies w/ ~4 minutes left in the 2nd. And he could easily have a hat trick with any luck at all. Edited January 23, 2020 by Taro T 1
Taro T Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 Mittelstadt takes a bad angle on Dano along the boards in the corner to let him get away and then Johansson lets a wraparound go in far side. Nobody else reacted on a very slowly developing play. Horrible goal. 2-2 6-1/2 into the 3rd.
Scottysabres Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 While I'm not one to give up on such a young kid is Mitts so early on, moving him now, before his stock drops through the bottom of the bucket may very well be the best thing to do to get value for him.
Ogre Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Brawndo said: Fun fact...73+24=97....yet 97>73+24...
Doohicksie Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 On 1/19/2020 at 6:45 PM, inkman said: Paetsch and Gilmore were playing forward. In my mind it seems like Paetsch should be in his forties. He was a Sabre soooo long ago. I recall he was a part-time forward for Buffalo.
shrader Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 56 minutes ago, Doohickie said: In my mind it seems like Paetsch should be in his forties. He was a Sabre soooo long ago. I recall he was a part-time forward for Buffalo. I think the same thing each time I see his name. I feel like he was on the team while I was in college, but as it turns out, he's younger than me. He was on that Presidents' Trophy team, but I have absolutely no memory of that.
pastajoe Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 12 hours ago, Scottysabres said: While I'm not one to give up on such a young kid is Mitts so early on, moving him now, before his stock drops through the bottom of the bucket may very well be the best thing to do to get value for him. I think he’ll improve with time in the AHL. It was a mistake to rush him into the NHL, but it might have been a demand of his to get him to sign. He’s still young and needs to put some muscle on. I think it’s too early to move him unless they got a proven veteran in return. By next season hopefully he can center the 3rd line. It will be interesting to see how they handle Cozens; will he get some time in the AHL to learn the pro game. 1
Doohicksie Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 38 minutes ago, shrader said: He was on that Presidents' Trophy team, but I have absolutely no memory of that. I do, and that's part of what makes him feel old to me. I remember thinking highly of him at the time: He was a steady Dman (bottom pairing level at the time without knowing what his upside was yet) who could take shifts at wing.
shrader Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Doohickie said: I do, and that's part of what makes him feel old to me. I remember thinking highly of him at the time: He was a steady Dman (bottom pairing level at the time without knowing what his upside was yet) who could take shifts at wing. I always think of him as a pre-lockout player. But anyway, looking back on his stats, it's amazing how quickly he fell off after a fantastic first season. I want to call it Gragnani disease, but that one was just a playoff series. 1
Doohicksie Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 Yep. I thought he was a keeper at first.
inkman Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, shrader said: I always think of him as a pre-lockout player. But anyway, looking back on his stats, it's amazing how quickly he fell off after a fantastic first 1 hour ago, shrader said: I always think of him as a pre-lockout player. But anyway, looking back on his stats, it's amazing how quickly he fell off after a fantastic first season. I want to call it Gragnani disease, but that one was just a playoff series. 14 minutes ago, Doohickie said: Yep. I thought he was a keeper at first. season. I want to call it Gragnani disease, but that one was just a playoff series. Patches was the original flash in a pan Sabre. The guy we saw for 5-10 games and fell in love with. Paetsch, Nelson, Mancari, Gargnani, Luke Adam all had similar arcs. Super small sample size, great results. Complete suckitude for the remainder of their career. 1
shrader Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 34 minutes ago, inkman said: Patches was the original flash in a pan Sabre. The guy we saw for 5-10 games and fell in love with. Paetsch, Nelson, Mancari, Gargnani, Luke Adam all had similar arcs. Super small sample size, great results. Complete suckitude for the remainder of their career. Mancari never had that moment at the NHL level. From your list, he's the one guy who turned into a very good career AHLer who did get a few chances here or there in the NHL. So I'll give him that much, he at least established a level for himself and maintained it throughout his career. The rest had their flash and then quickly fell off. I don't know if some guys just quit once they realize they won't make the big time, but I appreciate a guy like Mancari who still thrives at the AHL level after realizing that the dream is probably dead.
inkman Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, shrader said: Mancari never had that moment at the NHL level. From your list, he's the one guy who turned into a very good career AHLer who did get a few chances here or there in the NHL. So I'll give him that much, he at least established a level for himself and maintained it throughout his career. The rest had their flash and then quickly fell off. I don't know if some guys just quit once they realize they won't make the big time, but I appreciate a guy like Mancari who still thrives at the AHL level after realizing that the dream is probably dead. He was the one guy I wasn't ? sure on. I picture him horking down coffin nails after the game with a slug of whiskey.
Ogre Posted January 24, 2020 Report Posted January 24, 2020 Jim Kelly is at the BCA signing autographs tonight. Crazy long line.
DarthEbriate Posted January 25, 2020 Report Posted January 25, 2020 Asplund and Wilson round out the Amerks lineup? Up 3-0 now.
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