Eleven Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 More than I wanted them to spend, but ok... 1 Quote
mjd1001 Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Eleven said: More than I wanted them to spend, but ok... I guess I'm there also. I am/was at the point where I was OK with him walking for this amount. Would I take what would come with that....no big time scorer on the Sabres...Skinner probably on a better team and getting farther in the playoffs next year....etc. Yes, I'd be OK with it if he was getting paid that much. However, its done so I'll enjoy watching him play for the team. Hopefully, the cash is front loaded (even though the cap hit will be the same, a front loaded contract would be easier to dump in later years IF NEEDED), hopefully he'll be a guy who keeps producing well into his early and mid-thirties...and hopefully it does not have a full no-trade clause (sorry if these details are out, I have not had a chance to read every post in this thread so far) Edited June 8, 2019 by mjd1001 1 Quote
French Collection Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) He is an all star and they would not have been able to replace his production with another UFA. They could have gone hard after Karlsson, who did score 40 in the past and is a centre, but that would have been a long shot. Work your a$$ off Jeff! Edited June 8, 2019 by French Collection Quote
That Aud Smell Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 Honest question: Why wouldn’t CAR pay him like this? Absence of Pegula bucks? Roster structure? Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, nfreeman said: The good hockey talk in your posts that followed these was much better than "look how dumb some people are." No, it's not calling people stupid. I'm going after the mentality, not the intelligence. People *really* have got to get over their "nothing good can possibly happen to Buffalo woe is us" mentality. How much good hockey talk gets derailed by it? It's annoying to see all the time and I'll continue to call it out for the nonsense it is. 15 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: Honest question: Why wouldn’t CAR pay him like this? Absence of Pegula bucks? Roster structure? I believe it had something to do with "the room." Edited June 8, 2019 by TrueBlueGED 2 2 Quote
Curt Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) Well......it’s done What I like about it: -Jeff Skinner is a Buffalo Sabre. -Jeff Skinner wants to be a Buffalo Sabre. That is important on so many levels. Important for the team and for the fan base. What I do not like about it: -The term and the $ are both a little more than ideal, but not terrible and I think that was just the price of business in this instance. -The full NMC for all 8 years. That could become a big deal at some point. But hey, Jeff Skinner is a Buffalo Sabre! Edited June 8, 2019 by Curtisp5286 1 Quote
LTS Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 This was always the risk when the Sabres acquired him. It had to be exactly the scenario they hoped for as well. Acquire a guy who has solid 5v5 scoring and pair him with your top talent and watch pucks go in the net. That's what happened. If it continues to happen (and naturally that's what everyone is hoping for) then no one is going to complain about his $9M AAV. It may mean a hard decision down the road, but teams are going to be facing that hard decision both with the impending NHL/NHLPA agreement and the expansion draft for Seattle. Every GM has to prep for that and the potential that comes out of that new agreement. Bottom line, what's even $1M per year for the Sabres to now have the best odds of improving next year. If Skinner walked the Sabres would have had to replace him AND find improvement elsewhere. That would have required some serious UFA signings. And for those freaking out about Skinner's $9M AAV. I'm now waiting to see what the UFA period brings and how Skinner's contract looks by comparison. I'm also glad the Sabres aren't facing a Marner situation. I'd rather have Skinner's contract than deal with Marner right now. 2 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 38 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: I believe it had something to do with "the room." Huh. I missed or forgot that. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, New Scotland (NS) said: Good. What's next? Getting 2nd line players since we have none. One other note on Skinner’s deal. We have to pay more because of where we are in the standings and because of NY’s obscene taxes. 1 Quote
WildCard Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 21 minutes ago, New Scotland (NS) said: Good. What's next? Trade Risto 3 Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: Huh. I missed or forgot that. I missed it until somebody brought it up 'round these parts. Something about Williams and a clique making him the butt of jokes because of his figure skating background? Quote
sabills Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, New Scotland (NS) said: Good. What's next? Or: couldn't choose Edited June 8, 2019 by sabills 1 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 This was my max for him. Sure I wish it was lower but I'd rather have Skinner than not. Pressures on him now to live up to it. Quote
Gatorman0519 Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 It had to be done. We had no choice. I’m sure he’d get paid in the market. Quote
DarthEbriate Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) I've had a chance to sleep meditate on it in my space egg. The money isn't an issue; the cap will keep rising, especially after the combined effect of the Seattle and Vegas expansions. The only underperforming contract left after this season is Okposo's Moulson's. Money won't be an issue. The only questions are the ones that only time will tell. Will Skinner produce enough victories/goals to be judged fairly by the fans? Are Eichel and Skinner the players to build an entire roster around (they don't have the Cup playoff experience like Toews/Kane or Crosby/Malkin). (I didn't add Dahlin yet, because difficult to see the future is.) Thankfully, those questions are the fun ones to answer because we'll get to see it in real time (and sometimes on highlights or skipping ahead on online feeds). Game on. Edited June 8, 2019 by DarthEbriate Quote
Sidc3000 Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) Whelp its done. Time to move on.... Now hopefully he doesn't turn it down now that he set Edited June 8, 2019 by Sidc3000 Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said: I've had a chance to sleep meditate on it in my space egg. The money isn't an issue; the cap will keep rising, especially after the combined effect of the Seattle and Vegas expansions. The only underperforming contract left after this season is Moulson's. Money won't be an issue. The only questions are the ones that only time will tell. Will Skinner produce enough victories/goals to be judged fairly by the fans? Are Eichel and Skinner the players to build an entire roster around (they don't have the Cup playoff experience like Toews/Kane or Crosby/Malkin). (I didn't add Dahlin yet, because difficult to see the future is.) Thankfully, those questions are the fun ones to answer because we'll get to see it in real time (and sometimes on highlights or skipping ahead on online feeds). Game on. You mean Okposo. I'm curious to see how he does under a new coach. Quote
Sabel79 Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said: The only underperforming contract left after this season is Moulson's. Money won't be an issue. He gone, Darth. I'm sure you meant Okposo, in which case, carry on. Quote
DarthEbriate Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: You mean Okposo. I'm curious to see how he does under a new coach. 6 minutes ago, Sabel79 said: He gone, Darth. I'm sure you meant Okposo, in which case, carry on. <waves hand> .... I said Okposo. (thanks for the catch!) Quote
calti Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 hard to believe the sabres are the worst team in the nhl. Quote
dudacek Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Tondas said: I think there is a way to keep our youngins'. JBOT must have a plan for this. But I am intrigued what the return would be for a Risto and Samson as a combination trade. As it stands, next summer the Sabres have Eichel, Skinner, Okposo, Ristolainen Dahlin and Hutton under contract and about $50 million to spend. It’s a blank canvas. Botterill may have not done much yet with the team on the ice, but he’s certainly set himself up well under the cap. Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, calti said: hard to believe the sabres are the worst team in the nhl. Maybe that's because they are not the worst team in the NHL? The roster is lacking, but the coaching was also lacking. The system that was tried did not work well with the players on hand. Quote
Sabel79 Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 I've been staring at CapFriendly this morning, and I think JBOTs is in a good position going forward, and we may be in for a wild summer. Put another way... 1 1 Quote
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