Bogosian has hip surgery, out 5-6 months

[Drunkard]

2 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

This sounds sensible, but if the last two off-season surgeries repaired chronic problems, it could through out the "chronically injured" tag on Bogo.  It could be a case of he does, in fact, get better with age.  When he was on this year, he was excellent.  If he has increased periods of "being on" I might offer him a bit more.  I might offer him an extension early in the season; if he balks, then I'd wait and see how his season goes before offering him up on the trading block.  If he shows a steady game with physical edge over an extended period, I'd consider a better offer instead of moving him.

I think whoever signs him to his next contract will regret it within the very first year. I just hope it's not Buffalo.

[bob_sauve28]

31 minutes ago, Cascade Youth said:

My grandmother was never the same after hers.

But she could still run the power play really well, I think we should sign her and give her Skinner type money. Go Grandma!

[dudacek]

Bogo is getting nowhere near his current 7-year, $36 million contract next summer.

He’ll likely get more, but he’s going to mirror Luke Schenn, who signed a 5-year $18-million second contract based on promise and followed with a two-year $2.5 million deal when he didn’t fulfill that promise.

I’ll be shocked if Bogo signs a $10 million deal, or for four years.

[Doohicksie]

13 minutes ago, Drunkard said:

I think whoever signs him to his next contract will regret it within the very first year. I just hope it's not Buffalo.

Well yes.  I know what you think.  And you know what I think.  ?

[Ross Rhea]

Yet some would rather keep this guy opposed to Risto who is never hurt, younger, cheaper, plays 25 minutes a night, and will even get you 40+ points, smh!

[Tondas]

BOGOs next contract will be interesting.  When healthy, he's a 4-5 million D-Man (right shot) and physical.  I think when injured, the team has an insurance company pay the player's salary.  And LTIR alleviates the cap hit when the player is out.   So a team will take a shot at him in UFA since they won't be out cash or cap when he's injured.  Now he does take up a contract and the team will have to account for his cap at the beginning of the year.  But at 30 in July 2020, he'll have a market, just not sure what it will be.

[pi2000]

[Pimlach]

too bad.  He was very good for most of the season.

I wonder when the injury started to get bad ... he tailed off as the season drug on in Feb/March and was not physical like he was in Oct/Nov.

Bob

[Thorner]

4 hours ago, dudacek said:

I think it matters.

He had surgery to correct a chronic problem that may have been behind his history of issues. It was scheduled in such away to maximize his recovery time prior to this season and resulted in his playing most of the year at a higher level than anticipated.

You don’t usually fix two hips at once, you fix one, rehab, then fix the other.

If this is the other hip, and was planned, then that bodes well for his health moving forward. If it was not planned, it bodes the opposite.

If we re-sign him it's a colossal mistake. 

4 hours ago, Drunkard said:

Fair enough. I don't think it matters too much since missed time is missed time regardless of the reason. Either way I hope this is the last offseason where we have to speculate how many game this guy isn't going to he able to be counted on to play. 

Yes. Healthy Bogosian this season missed 17 games.

[GASabresIUFAN]

I will never understand what anyone sees in this player.

He is often injured

He is mediocre defensively

He is less then mediocre offensively 

He is often out of position

He may have once had good top end speed, but that isn’t the case anymore.

The only thing people tell me is that he is physical. Yeah!  A $5 mill physical statue.  Yeah!  

Just what we need.  Another oft injured overpaid and underproductive player.  

 

[Thorner]

2 hours ago, Doohickie said:

This sounds sensible, but if the last two off-season surgeries repaired chronic problems, it could through out the "chronically injured" tag on Bogo.  It could be a case of he does, in fact, get better with age.  When he was on this year, he was excellent.  If he has increased periods of "being on" I might offer him a bit more.  I might offer him an extension early in the season; if he balks, then I'd wait and see how his season goes before offering him up on the trading block.  If he shows a steady game with physical edge over an extended period, I'd consider a better offer instead of moving him.

I'm sorry but this is stretching the true to absurdity. 

[PerreaultForever]

I think you move ahead as if he wasn't there. If he comes back and you get a good year out of him great, it's a bonus, but you expect nothing. He's a character guy, but there should be better options for the future than resigning him and his injured body. 

[Thorner]

1 hour ago, Tondas said:

BOGOs next contract will be interesting.  When healthy, he's a 4-5 million D-Man (right shot) and physical.  I think when injured, the team has an insurance company pay the player's salary.  And LTIR alleviates the cap hit when the player is out.   So a team will take a shot at him in UFA since they won't be out cash or cap when he's injured.  Now he does take up a contract and the team will have to account for his cap at the beginning of the year.  But at 30 in July 2020, he'll have a market, just not sure what it will be.

Bogo has never in his career been on LTIR, and we have never got relief from his cap hit. 

Edited April 23, 2019 by Thorny

[OhMyDahlin]

Such a waste of space...can't wait until he's off the books.

[Sabres Fan in NS]

5 hours ago, Ogelthorpe said:

c*****e! It's a hell of a drug

Hi Pi,

Have we not gone over this?  Present some real hard evidence, or don't bring up this nonsense.

[Ogelthorpe]

19 minutes ago, New Scotland (NS) said:

Hi Pi,

Have we not gone over this?  Present some real hard evidence, or don't bring up this nonsense.

Who is Pi?

[pi2000]

1 hour ago, New Scotland (NS) said:

Hi Pi,

Have we not gone over this?  Present some real hard evidence, or don't bring up this nonsense.

not me

45 minutes ago, Ogelthorpe said:

Who is Pi?

me

[Ogelthorpe]

Just now, pi2000 said:

not me

me

Lol. Got ya

[pi2000]

2 minutes ago, Ogelthorpe said:

Lol. Got ya

Although I did accuse Bogo of cocaine use in the past... I can't be certain.... but it's based on some insider knowledge, although not someone who I trust implicitly.     So it's speculative at best.    

That said I hope he gets better and can at least contribute something next season.      

He had a +8.5 TRpm last season....  second best on the entire team.

BUf's ES goal diff was -46.0.
BUF has played 82.0 games and had an ES goal diff per game of -0.56.
Bogo has played 65.0 games, and 36.06% of each game on average.
Therefore, his expected pm is -13.15 while his actual pm is -5.0.
His TRpm is 8.15.

 

[Weave]

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Lance Lysowski‏ @LLysowski 6h6 hours ago

Can confirm @john_wawrow's report that Zach Bogosian did not have surgery on the same hip. Both hips had bothered Bogosian for some time. Doctors opted to only repair one last January.

 

 

[klos1963]

Too bad. Seems like a great teammate, but it's won't get any easier as he gets older. He's not long for the league.

[7+6=13]

I respect him.  On a team where effort has been questioned, he's out there playing with impending surgery in his future.  

[Stoner]

 

[Taro T]

Bummer.

Was hoping SOMEBODY would accept him as part of a deal for a 2RW.  Not a chance in heck of that happening now.

1 more season & then True can clean out his bunker.

[Thorner]

I suppose that's good news in that he didn't re-injure it, or experience an unexpected injury to the other side. Hopefully this surgery gets him healthier than ever.