Mustache of God Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 ha one more season of this. 1 Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 I'm just going to call him Steve from now on, eh. Completely rebuilt now and faster and stronger. And just as ruggedly handsome to boot. Quote
dudacek Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 Interesting. Was this a planned follow-up to last year’s surgery, I.e. the other hip? Did last year’s surgery fail? Is this a new injury? Quote
Drunkard Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, New Scotland (NS) said: I'm just going to call him Steve from now on, eh. Completely rebuilt now and faster and stronger. And just as ruggedly handsome to boot. I'd go with Old faithful because you can always count on him to be injured. It's like clockwork. Just another reason why Ristolainen doesn't deserve the ***** he gets on this board. At least he can be relied on to play. 4 minutes ago, dudacek said: Interesting. Was this a planned follow-up to last year’s surgery, I.e. the other hip? Did last year’s surgery fail? Is this a new injury? Does it even matter? The guy is a walking injury report whether it's something new or the continuation of something chronic. 1 Quote
Zamboni Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 I’ve been wanting him off the team for 2 full seasons. This will be his final season with the Sabres. Hopefully. Don’t re-sign him. Please. Very nice guy. Just don’t want him on the Sabres anymore ... On a positive note ... I hope he heals and recovers fully and can continue to play in the NHL. He’s only 28. 2 Quote
dudacek Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 I think it matters. He had surgery to correct a chronic problem that may have been behind his history of issues. It was scheduled in such away to maximize his recovery time prior to this season and resulted in his playing most of the year at a higher level than anticipated. You don’t usually fix two hips at once, you fix one, rehab, then fix the other. If this is the other hip, and was planned, then that bodes well for his health moving forward. If it was not planned, it bodes the opposite. 2 1 Quote
Drunkard Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, dudacek said: I think it matters. He had surgery to correct a chronic problem that may have been behind his history of issues. It was scheduled in such away to maximize his recovery time prior to this season and resulted in his playing most of the year at a higher level than anticipated. You don’t usually fix two hips at once, you fix one, rehab, then fix the other. If this is the other hip, and was planned, then that bodes well for his health moving forward. If it was not planned, it bodes the opposite. Fair enough. I don't think it matters too much since missed time is missed time regardless of the reason. Either way I hope this is the last offseason where we have to speculate how many game this guy isn't going to he able to be counted on to play. Quote
... Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 6 months means he'll be available in October (assuming all goes well). When did he come back this past season? Quote
Doohicksie Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 He missed the first handful of games; I think he came back during October. Quote
sabills Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 That sucks. Seems like he actually had a pretty decent year this year. 2 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 Mr. Glass. Lets put him on LTIR and move on. Enough already. 1 Quote
bob_sauve28 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 When he and Risto were out of the line up the Sabres got seriously bounced around. Way more than usual. 2 Quote
Doohicksie Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 53 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Mr. Glass. Lets put him on LTIR and move on. Enough already. Say what you want, I don't think Bogo is part of the problem. His injuries have been an issue but having the off-season surgery should remedy that. If his wheels don't give him problems going forward I think the Sabres would be stupid to trade him just to "move on." Quote
... Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Doohickie said: Say what you want, I don't think Bogo is part of the problem. His injuries have been an issue but having the off-season surgery should remedy that. If his wheels don't give him problems going forward I think the Sabres would be stupid to trade him just to "move on." I think a lot of this would be mitigated if we simply knew whether it was the other hip or not. Quote
matter2003 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 Damn...even when this dude is relatively healthy he isn't healthy... Quote
Doohicksie Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 He was a lot better this year than in past seasons as a Sabre. If he can do as well this year (or possibly even better), he might even be worth re-signing. Quote
woods-racer Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 My hope is he has a year that shows a marked improvement like this past season has after hip surgery. Quote
Drunkard Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Doohickie said: Say what you want, I don't think Bogo is part of the problem. His injuries have been an issue but having the off-season surgery should remedy that. If his wheels don't give him problems going forward I think the Sabres would be stupid to trade him just to "move on." So what kind of contract extension would you offer him? Are you willing to offer him a long term deal for big money because you don't think he's part of the problem? He's 28 so his next contract will likely be his last big one and I doubt he's going to want some short term prove it type of deal. The guy has been constantly hobbled as a younger player and that continued through his prime. Chronically injured players don't tend to be less injured as they get older either. If anything age is only going to exacerbate his running list of reasons for missing time. Personally, I'd offer him a one year extension at a pay cut before the season starts and when he balks at that (because he should) I'd look to move him during the season or by the trade deadline next season. If no one bites I'd let him walk and cut my losses. Edited April 23, 2019 by Drunkard Quote
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, dudacek said: I think it matters. He had surgery to correct a chronic problem that may have been behind his history of issues. It was scheduled in such away to maximize his recovery time prior to this season and resulted in his playing most of the year at a higher level than anticipated. You don’t usually fix two hips at once, you fix one, rehab, then fix the other. If this is the other hip, and was planned, then that bodes well for his health moving forward. If it was not planned, it bodes the opposite. Nailed it! Quote
Cascade Youth Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 My grandmother was never the same after hers. 2 Quote
Doohicksie Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, Cascade Youth said: My grandmother was never the same after hers. She was never any good at preventing zone entries to begin with.... 1 2 Quote
Doohicksie Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, Drunkard said: So what kind of contract extension would you offer him? Are you willing to offer him a long term deal for big money because you don't think he's part of the problem? He's 28 so his next contract will likely be his last big one and I doubt he's going to want some short term prove it type of deal. The guy has been constantly hobbled as a younger player and that continued through his prime. Chronically injured players don't tend to be less injured as they get older either. If anything age is only going to exacerbate his running list of reasons for missing time. Personally, I'd offer him a one year extension at a pay cut before the season starts and when he balks at that (because he should) I'd look to move him during the season or by the trade deadline next season. If no one bites I'd let him walk and cut my losses. This sounds sensible, but if the last two off-season surgeries repaired chronic problems, it could through out the "chronically injured" tag on Bogo. It could be a case of he does, in fact, get better with age. When he was on this year, he was excellent. If he has increased periods of "being on" I might offer him a bit more. I might offer him an extension early in the season; if he balks, then I'd wait and see how his season goes before offering him up on the trading block. If he shows a steady game with physical edge over an extended period, I'd consider a better offer instead of moving him. Quote
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