If fans could fire an owner, would you fire Terry?

[PromoTheRobot]

4 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

Protecting your trademarks is always a valid concern. I question whether #BillsMafia presented any sort of threat to the Bills mark. I also know that there are other ways to go about protecting your marks.

Moreover, they’re asking for the whole kit and kaboodle — a straight “word mark.” They’d own the phrase, in any style, color scheme, etc.

It contains "Bills." If the Pegulas and the NFL looked the other way, then precedent is set. Anyone could create  #Bills(whatever) and they'd have no right to object.

[That Aud Smell]

1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said:

It contains "Bills." If the Pegulas and the NFL looked the other way, then precedent is set. Anyone could create  #Bills(whatever) and they'd have no right to object.

Except that it doesn't contain "Bills".

And I'm not advocating that anyone with rights to protect look the other way, and lose them.

[That Aud Smell]

Query also the concept of fair use. That said, I think Del does well not to use "Bills" in his #mafia gear.

[Eleven]

28 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

Protecting your trademarks is always a valid concern. I question whether #BillsMafia presented any sort of threat to the Bills mark. I also know that there are other ways to go about protecting your marks.

Moreover, they’re asking for the whole kit and kaboodle — a straight “word mark.” They’d own the phrase, in any style, color scheme, etc.

No idea. My concerns aren’t really legal anyway. It just seems like a tone dead cash grab.

Oh, I agree.  I just wonder if some company like 26shirts or BarStool sports might like to get into a scrap.  Just looked up the application on TESS--I know the filer pretty well and I suspect you do, too.

[Kruppstahl]

32 minutes ago, Eleven said:

Oh, I agree.  I just wonder if some company like 26shirts or BarStool sports might like to get into a scrap.  Just looked up the application on TESS--I know the filer pretty well and I suspect you do, too.

Anyone who thinks they have superior rights can bring an inter partes proceeding against the Bills before the TTAB at the USPTO; I doubt anyone is out there though.

This is just for use in connection with clothing, by the way.

(Both applications that is; neither has been examined as of yet so they are just in limbo).

I did a very quick search and didn't find any potentially blocking marks.

There is another Bills Mafia mark out there but for use in connection with an online message board about Buffalo, NY topics.

 

 

 

 

[That Aud Smell]

1 hour ago, Eleven said:

Oh, I agree.  I just wonder if some company like 26shirts or BarStool sports might like to get into a scrap.  Just looked up the application on TESS--I know the filer pretty well and I suspect you do, too.

Hmm. I'm off to look at who the filer is. Not for nothing: I have always found it so odd which local law firm they generally use.

Nope. Don't know the guy. Impressive resume, though.

[Eleven]

1 hour ago, Kruppstahl said:

Anyone who thinks they have superior rights can bring an inter partes proceeding against the Bills before the TTAB at the USPTO; I doubt anyone is out there though.

Yeah, that's why I mentioned the two companies that I know sell "Bills Mafia" apparel (and have for years).

21 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

Not for nothing: I have always found it so odd which local law firm they generally use.

Same.  I know who has the relationship, too, and that makes it even weirder.  I know it goes back to at least the early Brandon years, so maybe it's a high school or college friendship or something.

Edited October 16, 2020 by Eleven

[That Aud Smell]

6 minutes ago, Eleven said:

Yeah, that's why I mentioned the two companies that I know sell "Bills Mafia" apparel (and have for years).

Oh, really?

[That Aud Smell]

6 minutes ago, Eleven said:

Same.  I know who has the relationship, too, and that makes it even weirder.  I know it goes back to at least the early Brandon years, so maybe it's a high school or college friendship or something.

Interesting. I will say: They have a commercial litigator who's about our vintage --  and he is excellent. So there's that.

It's just that ... it's a firm with such an unusual mix of practices. You'd think billionaires would insist on getting a more buttoned up white shoe firm -- not a firm with, among other things, historical ties to Larry Flynt and ongoing ties to the adult entertainment industry.

[Eleven]

22 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

Oh, really?

Go get 'em!

[tom webster]

53 minutes ago, Eleven said:

Go get 'em!

So is it true that the Pegula’s and Del Reid are actually working together on this?

[PromoTheRobot]

 

So put the torches and pitchforks back in the tool shed.

[That Aud Smell]

This is a welcome development. Thanks for posting.

Good to see Ronny Racs out in front of the matter - West Side!

[Kruppstahl]

17 hours ago, Eleven said:

Yeah, that's why I mentioned the two companies that I know sell "Bills Mafia" apparel (and have for years).

Same.  I know who has the relationship, too, and that makes it even weirder.  I know it goes back to at least the early Brandon years, so maybe it's a high school or college friendship or something.

I didn't know anyone was selling "Bills Mafia" stuff.  Well that's interesting.  I doubt either has the sophistication to bring an opposition proceeding against the Bills, but who knows.  They might.

 

 

[Eleven]

On 10/17/2020 at 8:57 AM, Kruppstahl said:

I didn't know anyone was selling "Bills Mafia" stuff.  Well that's interesting.  I doubt either has the sophistication to bring an opposition proceeding against the Bills, but who knows.  They might.

 

 

Barstool Sports definitely has the resources for a trademark opposition.  But from what Aud Smell posted, it might not need to. 

[Stoner]

Bump. You can change your vote.

We can get to 40% by game time tonight.

[Thorner]

Whoops, forgot to vote. It's in now

[Kruppstahl]

On 10/16/2020 at 2:59 PM, Eleven said:

Yeah, that's why I mentioned the two companies that I know sell "Bills Mafia" apparel (and have for years).

Same.  I know who has the relationship, too, and that makes it even weirder.  I know it goes back to at least the early Brandon years, so maybe it's a high school or college friendship or something.

LOL: I used to work at that firm and indeed did a few small bits of work for the Bills.

 

 

[Figster]

No

[LabattBlue]

2 hours ago, PASabreFan said:

Bump. You can change your vote.

We can get to 40% by game time tonight.

YES, YES, YES!!!

[Kruppstahl]

15 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

YES, YES, YES!!!

I already voted "YES" a long time ago, but wish I could vote again now.

 

[Radar]

Changed my vote. Yes!

[JoeSchmoe]

The price of oil and natural gas seems to be on the rebound. If the run continues, hopefully the Pegula lifestyle can get back on track and cash for the team will be a little easier to come by.

[nucci]

3 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said:

The price of oil and natural gas seems to be on the rebound. If the run continues, hopefully the Pegula lifestyle can get back on track and cash for the team will be a little easier to come by.

will this make them smarter owners?

[JoeSchmoe]

1 hour ago, nucci said:

will this make them smarter owners?

We haven't drafted with a crap for a long time, that is the #1 problem with this team. I know everyone wants to put this on ownership, but more than anything it's been bad luck and to a lesser extent bad scouting.

 

The 2nd worst thing that could happen to this team is for new ownership come in and cheap out on player salaries a la Ottawa and Arizona.

 

The worst thing to happen to the Sabres would be for new ownership to come in and move the team to a wealthier market that doesn't need to have one of the cheapest ticket prices in the league to fill the building.