PromoTheRobot Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 4:46 PM, That Aud Smell said: Protecting your trademarks is always a valid concern. I question whether #BillsMafia presented any sort of threat to the Bills mark. I also know that there are other ways to go about protecting your marks. Moreover, they’re asking for the whole kit and kaboodle — a straight “word mark.” They’d own the phrase, in any style, color scheme, etc. Expand It contains "Bills." If the Pegulas and the NFL looked the other way, then precedent is set. Anyone could create #Bills(whatever) and they'd have no right to object. 1 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 4:51 PM, PromoTheRobot said: It contains "Bills." If the Pegulas and the NFL looked the other way, then precedent is set. Anyone could create #Bills(whatever) and they'd have no right to object. Expand Except that it doesn't contain "Bills". And I'm not advocating that anyone with rights to protect look the other way, and lose them. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 Query also the concept of fair use. That said, I think Del does well not to use "Bills" in his #mafia gear. 1 Quote
Eleven Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 4:46 PM, That Aud Smell said: Protecting your trademarks is always a valid concern. I question whether #BillsMafia presented any sort of threat to the Bills mark. I also know that there are other ways to go about protecting your marks. Moreover, they’re asking for the whole kit and kaboodle — a straight “word mark.” They’d own the phrase, in any style, color scheme, etc. No idea. My concerns aren’t really legal anyway. It just seems like a tone dead cash grab. Expand Oh, I agree. I just wonder if some company like 26shirts or BarStool sports might like to get into a scrap. Just looked up the application on TESS--I know the filer pretty well and I suspect you do, too. 1 Quote
Kruppstahl Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 5:16 PM, Eleven said: Oh, I agree. I just wonder if some company like 26shirts or BarStool sports might like to get into a scrap. Just looked up the application on TESS--I know the filer pretty well and I suspect you do, too. Expand Anyone who thinks they have superior rights can bring an inter partes proceeding against the Bills before the TTAB at the USPTO; I doubt anyone is out there though. This is just for use in connection with clothing, by the way. (Both applications that is; neither has been examined as of yet so they are just in limbo). I did a very quick search and didn't find any potentially blocking marks. There is another Bills Mafia mark out there but for use in connection with an online message board about Buffalo, NY topics. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 5:16 PM, Eleven said: Oh, I agree. I just wonder if some company like 26shirts or BarStool sports might like to get into a scrap. Just looked up the application on TESS--I know the filer pretty well and I suspect you do, too. Expand Hmm. I'm off to look at who the filer is. Not for nothing: I have always found it so odd which local law firm they generally use. Nope. Don't know the guy. Impressive resume, though. Quote
Eleven Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) On 10/16/2020 at 5:52 PM, Kruppstahl said: Anyone who thinks they have superior rights can bring an inter partes proceeding against the Bills before the TTAB at the USPTO; I doubt anyone is out there though. Expand Yeah, that's why I mentioned the two companies that I know sell "Bills Mafia" apparel (and have for years). On 10/16/2020 at 6:40 PM, That Aud Smell said: Not for nothing: I have always found it so odd which local law firm they generally use. Expand Same. I know who has the relationship, too, and that makes it even weirder. I know it goes back to at least the early Brandon years, so maybe it's a high school or college friendship or something. Edited October 16, 2020 by Eleven 1 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 6:59 PM, Eleven said: Yeah, that's why I mentioned the two companies that I know sell "Bills Mafia" apparel (and have for years). Expand Oh, really? Quote
That Aud Smell Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 6:59 PM, Eleven said: Same. I know who has the relationship, too, and that makes it even weirder. I know it goes back to at least the early Brandon years, so maybe it's a high school or college friendship or something. Expand Interesting. I will say: They have a commercial litigator who's about our vintage -- and he is excellent. So there's that. It's just that ... it's a firm with such an unusual mix of practices. You'd think billionaires would insist on getting a more buttoned up white shoe firm -- not a firm with, among other things, historical ties to Larry Flynt and ongoing ties to the adult entertainment industry. Quote
Eleven Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 7:06 PM, That Aud Smell said: Oh, really? Expand Go get 'em! Quote
tom webster Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 7:29 PM, Eleven said: Go get 'em! Expand So is it true that the Pegula’s and Del Reid are actually working together on this? Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 So put the torches and pitchforks back in the tool shed. 2 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 This is a welcome development. Thanks for posting. Good to see Ronny Racs out in front of the matter - West Side! Quote
Kruppstahl Posted October 17, 2020 Report Posted October 17, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 6:59 PM, Eleven said: Yeah, that's why I mentioned the two companies that I know sell "Bills Mafia" apparel (and have for years). Same. I know who has the relationship, too, and that makes it even weirder. I know it goes back to at least the early Brandon years, so maybe it's a high school or college friendship or something. Expand I didn't know anyone was selling "Bills Mafia" stuff. Well that's interesting. I doubt either has the sophistication to bring an opposition proceeding against the Bills, but who knows. They might. Quote
Eleven Posted October 18, 2020 Report Posted October 18, 2020 On 10/17/2020 at 12:57 PM, Kruppstahl said: I didn't know anyone was selling "Bills Mafia" stuff. Well that's interesting. I doubt either has the sophistication to bring an opposition proceeding against the Bills, but who knows. They might. Expand Barstool Sports definitely has the resources for a trademark opposition. But from what Aud Smell posted, it might not need to. Quote
Stoner Posted March 11, 2021 Author Report Posted March 11, 2021 Bump. You can change your vote. We can get to 40% by game time tonight. Quote
Kruppstahl Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 On 10/16/2020 at 6:59 PM, Eleven said: Yeah, that's why I mentioned the two companies that I know sell "Bills Mafia" apparel (and have for years). Same. I know who has the relationship, too, and that makes it even weirder. I know it goes back to at least the early Brandon years, so maybe it's a high school or college friendship or something. Expand LOL: I used to work at that firm and indeed did a few small bits of work for the Bills. Quote
LabattBlue Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 On 3/11/2021 at 5:55 PM, PASabreFan said: Bump. You can change your vote. We can get to 40% by game time tonight. Expand YES, YES, YES!!! Quote
Kruppstahl Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 On 3/11/2021 at 7:57 PM, LabattBlue said: YES, YES, YES!!! Expand I already voted "YES" a long time ago, but wish I could vote again now. 1 Quote
JoeSchmoe Posted March 12, 2021 Report Posted March 12, 2021 The price of oil and natural gas seems to be on the rebound. If the run continues, hopefully the Pegula lifestyle can get back on track and cash for the team will be a little easier to come by. 1 Quote
nucci Posted March 12, 2021 Report Posted March 12, 2021 On 3/12/2021 at 1:30 PM, JoeSchmoe said: The price of oil and natural gas seems to be on the rebound. If the run continues, hopefully the Pegula lifestyle can get back on track and cash for the team will be a little easier to come by. Expand will this make them smarter owners? 1 Quote
JoeSchmoe Posted March 12, 2021 Report Posted March 12, 2021 On 3/12/2021 at 1:34 PM, nucci said: will this make them smarter owners? Expand We haven't drafted with a crap for a long time, that is the #1 problem with this team. I know everyone wants to put this on ownership, but more than anything it's been bad luck and to a lesser extent bad scouting. The 2nd worst thing that could happen to this team is for new ownership come in and cheap out on player salaries a la Ottawa and Arizona. The worst thing to happen to the Sabres would be for new ownership to come in and move the team to a wealthier market that doesn't need to have one of the cheapest ticket prices in the league to fill the building. Quote
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