bobs0108 Posted June 12, 2019 Report Posted June 12, 2019 (edited) 0.74 KHL 0.58 SHL 0.47 AHL 0.43 SM-Liiga, Swiss NLA, NCHC 0.38 H-East 0.33 Big 10 0.30 OHL 0.29 WHL 0.25 QMJHL 0.23 ECAC this is from 2 years ago don’t know if it’s changed Edited June 12, 2019 by bobs0108 1 1 Quote
dudacek Posted June 12, 2019 Report Posted June 12, 2019 Athletic with a piece on players likely to be over-drafted next week. Players to not want at 7: Podkolzin, Broberg And at 30/31 Tobias Björnfot, Alex Vlasic Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 12, 2019 Author Report Posted June 12, 2019 (edited) Since I didn't have the exact conversion for every league I basically took the lowest unless I thought otherwise. You will see a bunch of leagues got that .23 conversion because of this. I did give the USDP a .26 because they play against some tougher competition than their USHL counterparts (who I gave a 0.25). Personally I think the USHL is better than the Q but decided to error on the side of caution. Also, I don't think Kakko will only get 30points, he should get more. Edited June 12, 2019 by LGR4GM 1 Quote
Crusader1969 Posted June 12, 2019 Report Posted June 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Since I didn't have the exact conversion for every league I basically took the lowest unless I thought otherwise. You will see a bunch of leagues got that .23 conversion because of this. I did give the USDP a .26 because they play against some tougher competition than their USHL counterparts (who I gave a 0.25). Personally I think the USHL is better than the Q but decided to error on the side of caution. Also, I don't think Kakko will only get 30points, he should get more. Can you give me your perfect draft for the Sabres with their top3 picks? Mine is (Zegras or cozens at 7, Hoglander, Brink, Robertson or Tomasino at 30/31 and Mads Sogaard at 67 as they need to add another goalie to the prospect pool) Quote
shrader Posted June 12, 2019 Report Posted June 12, 2019 I'm going to go all out @New Scotland (NS) on this one. Some sort of trade leads us to this through the first 4 rounds: Zegras! Mastrosimone! Vlasic! Fensore! McCarthy! 1 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 12, 2019 Author Report Posted June 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Crusader1969 said: Can you give me your perfect draft for the Sabres with their top3 picks? Mine is (Zegras or cozens at 7, Hoglander, Brink, Robertson or Tomasino at 30/31 and Mads Sogaard at 67 as they need to add another goalie to the prospect pool) Alex Turcotte (7th), Nils Hoglander (30th), Ethan Keppen (67th), Goalie (98th). 1 Quote
North Buffalo Posted June 12, 2019 Report Posted June 12, 2019 Kappo Kakko 7th then what Liger said if we are talking perfect! Quote
Thorner Posted June 12, 2019 Report Posted June 12, 2019 Any word on if we have a 4th round pick this year yet? Came in the Kane trade, Sharks have option of deferring to 2020 3rd. Quote
Brawndo Posted June 12, 2019 Report Posted June 12, 2019 https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/2019-nhl-combine-results-top-10-drill/ Combine Results 1 Quote
dudacek Posted June 12, 2019 Report Posted June 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, Thorny said: Any word on if we have a 4th round pick this year yet? Came in the Kane trade, Sharks have option of deferring to 2020 3rd. Pretty sure that’s a call that can be made on the draft floor. Quote
sabresparaavida Posted June 12, 2019 Report Posted June 12, 2019 Wow. Jayden Struble has the strongest grip strength in both hands. Talk about ambidextrous. Quote
Thorner Posted June 12, 2019 Report Posted June 12, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, dudacek said: Pretty sure that’s a call that can be made on the draft floor. Hmm ok. I like to follow the draft on Saturday (like most here I'm sure) so for selfish reasons I hope they get the pick this year. If not, they'll have none in rounds 2, 4, and 5 so it'll be a little slow. Edited June 12, 2019 by Thorny Quote
#freejame Posted June 12, 2019 Report Posted June 12, 2019 Any Bobby Brink fans? What’s the odds he’s around at 30/1? So long as we don’t draft Caufield, I think he’s the pick I want there, assuming he’s around. Quote
dudacek Posted June 12, 2019 Report Posted June 12, 2019 39 minutes ago, #freejame said: Any Bobby Brink fans? What’s the odds he’s around at 30/1? So long as we don’t draft Caufield, I think he’s the pick I want there, assuming he’s around. He looks attractive if still there at 30. Got some skill. Quote
Brawndo Posted June 12, 2019 Report Posted June 12, 2019 41 minutes ago, #freejame said: Any Bobby Brink fans? What’s the odds he’s around at 30/1? So long as we don’t draft Caufield, I think he’s the pick I want there, assuming he’s around. He or Nick Robertson would work Quote
dudacek Posted June 12, 2019 Report Posted June 12, 2019 52 minutes ago, Brawndo said: He or Nick Robertson would work Yes. Pelletier is the 3rd small, productive hustler I like there and Hoglander is another. Quote
French Collection Posted June 13, 2019 Report Posted June 13, 2019 I'm excited for the draft, one of my favourite times of the year. Everyone is full of hope, the players want to be selected, teams want to get their guys, fans hope for the next star and families hope for a good fit for their kids. Can't wait! Turcotte, Cozens, Zegras or Boldy. 1 Quote
PalmTreeMafia Posted June 13, 2019 Report Posted June 13, 2019 My prediction is that the top 6 picked will be Hughes, Kakko, Byram, Turcotte, Zegras, and Cozens. This would leave Boldy, Dach, Krebs, Podkolzin, and Caufield available at #7. Of those 5, I'm guessing the Sabres go wth Caufield to be the long-term answer at RW1 with Eichel and Skinner. 1 Quote
FrenchConnection44 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Posted June 13, 2019 I don't think there's any way we get a shot at Kakko though he would be a great addition. I simply don't want any more small, finesse players. We need talented players, but we need more physicality to stand up to bigger teams. It's still a physical game. I'd take Cozens, Boldy, or Dach. All three have size, skill and can skate, thought Dach is not as good a skater as the others. Just not a fan of a 5'11, 180 lb player. We have way too many of those. We've got to get bigger! At the end of round 1, assuming we go with a forward in the top of round 1, I'd look for another quality defender. 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 13, 2019 Author Report Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, FrenchConnection44 said: I don't think there's any way we get a shot at Kakko though he would be a great addition. I simply don't want any more small, finesse players. We need talented players, but we need more physicality to stand up to bigger teams. It's still a physical game. I'd take Cozens, Boldy, or Dach. All three have size, skill and can skate, thought Dach is not as good a skater as the others. Just not a fan of a 5'11, 180 lb player. We have way too many of those. We've got to get bigger! At the end of round 1, assuming we go with a forward in the top of round 1, I'd look for another quality defender. Things that don't matter, a player's weight at 18yrs old. Also I'm not sure we have 1 5'11" 180lb skater... maybe Olofsson? Edited June 13, 2019 by LGR4GM Quote
Hoss Posted June 13, 2019 Report Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, dudacek said: Pretty sure that’s a call that can be made on the draft floor. I highly doubt it. They probably have to make the call at least 24 hours prior to the draft. The Isles had until June 1st to make the call on whether to keep the 5th overall pick or give it to us from the Vanek deal. Edited June 13, 2019 by Hoss Quote
Brawndo Posted June 13, 2019 Report Posted June 13, 2019 From Lisa Dillman who covers the Kings for The Athletic Quote Now it appears unlikely that impact defenseman Bowen Byram of the Vancouver Giants will still be around at No. 5 – most believe he will be gone by the time the Kings make their selection. (Fans should familiarize themselves with Saskatoon Blades Kirby Dach and quickly find out the correct pronunciation of his name.) Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 13, 2019 Author Report Posted June 13, 2019 I firmly believe that LA goes Dach or Cozens. 1 Quote
FrenchConnection44 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Things that don't matter, a player's weight at 18yrs old. Also I'm not sure we have 1 5'11" 180lb skater... maybe Olofsson? Of course, but that misses the point. It's not just about the weight they are right now, but about the frame and physicality. I'm referring to guys like Caufield, Zegras, Krebs, etc. who are smaller. Whereas a Cozens, who only weighs 180 right now, has the physical frame at 6'3 to fill out and go 210+ one day. But, then there are players who are already big - Kakko, Dach, Boldy and will get bigger and stronger as they move into the NHL weight room. The '5'11 180' number was not specifying one player but was a generic reference. But, we actually have seven forwards under 6 feet: Sobotka, Wilson, Sheary, Larsson, Skinner, Olafsson, and Rodriguez. And, depending on which site (ESPN, NHL) of the 14 forwards on the squad at the end of the year, only 5 were over 200 lbs, and 4 of those are listed right at 200-201 or so. THere's just not a big physical presence on the front line. Small, fast players are fine; but when your whole forward lineup is average to under size you lose something. You don't bring much in the way of an intimidating physical presence. Sure, if everyone of them has the explosive offensive talent of a Kucherov or Brayden Point, you might get away with that (But Tampa Bay also got crushed in the playoffs). But, I think it's important to have more players the size of a Matthews or Laine or Blake Wheeler (6'5, 225) to balance out some of our more smallish lineup and talent. Look at Toronto, Washington, Winnipeg, St. Louis and several other playoff teams - they all have a number of front line players 6'2, 6'3, 6'4 + well over 200 lbs, with talent and who bring a significant physical presence to their teams. Something that really has been missing with the Sabres. It helps overall, it helps defensively, and if you get in the playoffs it helps with that long 2nd season grind. Edited June 13, 2019 by FrenchConnection44 Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 13, 2019 Author Report Posted June 13, 2019 Being large does not mean you're physical. Zegras and Krebs are more physical than Dach. Quote
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