2019 NHL Draft

[LGR4GM]

My random player for the day:

Shane Pinto. 6'2" 192lb Center. He played in the USHL. Sounds like a competitor and might, might be around in the 3rd. 

[Drunkard]

3 hours ago, dudacek said:

We are in the midst of another great Buffalo tease.

If Dallas wins, the Sabres pick no worse than 19.

If Dallas, Colorado and Columbus win, the Sabres pick 17.

But you know San Jose and St. Louis will both win, meaning the Sabres pick no better than 30th.

With series clinching goals by O'Reilly and Kane, right? That would be the most Buffalo thing to happen I would think.

[Hoss]

4 hours ago, dudacek said:

We are in the midst of another great Buffalo tease.

If Dallas wins, the Sabres pick no worse than 19.

If Dallas, Colorado and Columbus win, the Sabres pick 17.

But you know San Jose and St. Louis will both win, meaning the Sabres pick no better than 30th.

and if carolina wins we get 16

[GASabresIUFAN]

Found this on NHL.com  http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26377

 

Quote

 

Entry Draft Order
The order of selection among the Member Clubs in each season shall be determined in the following manner:
A composite of all Member Clubs shall be prepared by placing:
i) First the Clubs which failed to qualify for the preceding playoffs in the order of points earned by each of them in the regular schedule of the preceding season starting with the Club having the lowest points total and followed by the Club having the next lowest points total, and so forth.
ii) The Clubs which participated in the preceding playoffs (but had not been ranked first in their respective Divisions and had not won the Stanley Cup that season) in order of points earned by each of them in the regular schedule of the preceding season starting with the Club having the lowest total points and followed by the Club having the next lowest total points, and so forth.
iii) The Clubs which had been ranked first in their Divisions during the next preceding season (but had not won the Stanley Cup that season) in the order of points earned by each of them in the regular schedule of the preceding season starting with the Club having the lowest total points and followed by the Club having the next lowest total points, and so forth.
iv) The Stanley Cup winner shall select last, thus, positioning all Clubs on the list.

In the event of a tie for any position, such tie shall be resolved by application of the rules governing the determination of final League standings. The resulting list shall constitute the order of selection.

 

The Cup winner drafts last, then the 4 Division winner (if one doesn’t win the Cup) then remaining playoffs based on regular season points.  This says nothing about Cup runner-up or conference finalists.

Right now all 4 Division winners are out.  

So the draft order is 

31 Cup Winner (Boston the favorite?)

30 TB

29 Calg

28 Wash

27 Nash

26 NYI

25 SJ

24 Tor

23 Pitt

22 Wpj

21 Car

20 Stl

19 CBJ

18 Dallas

17 LV

16 Colo

I think we need Colorado, Dallas or CBJ to Win the Cup for Stl to fall to 19th.

[Curt]

14 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Found this on NHL.com  http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26377

 

The Cup winner drafts last, then the 4 Division winner (if one doesn’t win the Cup) then remaining playoffs based on regular season points.  This says nothing about Cup runner-up or conference finalists.

Right now all 4 Division winners are out.  

So the draft order is 

31 Cup Winner (Boston the favorite?)

30 TB

29 Calg

28 Wash

27 Nash

26 NYI

25 SJ

24 Tor

23 Pitt

22 Wpj

21 Car

20 Stl

19 CBJ

18 Dallas

17 LV

16 Colo

I think we need Colorado, Dallas or CBJ to Win the Cup for Stl to fall to 19th.

This is old, outdated information.  I know it’s on NHL.com, but I’m 95% sure that it’s incorrect.  There is other info on NHL.com which contradicts it, and describes the way the draft order has been set since the current CBA went into affect.  The conference finalists get the last 4 spots, and then it’s decided by points after that.  

Just look at how the draft has been the past few years.  The process hasn’t changed.

Edited April 26, 2019 by Curtisp5286

[jsb]

7 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

My random player for the day:

Shane Pinto. 6'2" 192lb Center. He played in the USHL. Sounds like a competitor and might, might be around in the 3rd. 

I've seen him play, he's a horse out on the ice!!

[dudacek]

1 hour ago, jsb said:

I've seen him play, he's a horse out on the ice!!

And he explodes if you hit him from behind.

[Taro T]

11 hours ago, Hoss said:

and if carolina wins we get 16

Wrong.  Both had 99 points.  Canes had 44 ROW; Blues 42.

17-19 are the possible spots should Dallas win 4 of the next 6.

[Hoss]

16 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Wrong.  Both had 99 points.  Canes had 44 ROW; Blues 42.

17-19 are the possible spots should Dallas win 4 of the next 6.

do we know for sure that the hurricanes being a wild card participant doesn’t trump this?

[Curt]

5 hours ago, Hoss said:

do we know for sure that the hurricanes being a wild card participant doesn’t trump this?

Yes, we do.

[Brawndo]

 

[Taro T]

15 hours ago, Hoss said:

do we know for sure that the hurricanes being a wild card participant doesn’t trump this?

Yes we do.

Draft seeding is set by teams falling in the following categories:

Lottery winner;

Lottery runner up;

Lottery 3rd;

Remaining lottery eligible teams;

Non RS division winners eliminated in 1st 2 rounds;

RS division winners eliminated in 1st 2 rounds;

Conference finalists;

SC finalist;

SC winner.

In each category, teams are seeded in inverse order to their RS ranking.

Wildcard is NOT a category / subcategory effecting draft order.

 

[Brawndo]

In an interview with The Athletic Yzerman mentioned he sees no concerns with Pod coming over even if it takes two years and he likes Caufield as well  

[Crusader1969]

Is there any player in the group of 8 that 100% will be taken prior to the sabres at 7?  

I think I’m at Byram being the only one 

[Crusader1969]

April ISS Hockey Top 31 Ranked Prospects for 2019 NHL Draft

Rank	Name	D.O.B	Team	League	Position	Shot	Height	Weight
1	Hughes, Jack	May 14/01	USA U18	NTDP	C	L	5.10.25*	168
2	Kakko, Kaapo	Feb 13/01	TPS Turku	FinE	RW	L	6.02.25*	194
3	Byram, Bowen	Jun 13/01	Vancouver	WHL	LD	L	6.00.5*	194
4	Podkolzin, Vasily	Jun 24/01	St. Petersburg	KHL	LW	L	6.01	190
5	Cozens, Dylan	Feb 9/01	Lethbridge	WHL	C	R	6.03*	181
6	Turcotte, Alex	Feb 26/01	USA U18	NTDP	C	L	5.11*	189
7	Dach, Kirby	Jan 21/01	Saskatoon	WHL	C	R	6.03.5*	199
8	Boldy, Matthew	Apr 5/01	USA U18	NTDP	C	L	6.00.75*	175
9	Zegras, Trevor	Mar 20/01	USA U18	NTDP	C	L	5.10.75*	159
10	Krebs, Peyton	Jan 26/01	Kootenay	WHL	LW	L	5.11.25*	180
11	York, Cam	Jan 5/01	USA U18	NTDP	LD	L	5.10.75*	163
12	Lavoie, Raphael	Sep 25/00	Halifax	QMJHL	C	R	6.03.5*	191
13	Soderstrom, Victor	Feb 26/01	Brynas	SweJE	LD	R	5.11*	179
14	Newhook, Alex	Jan 28/01	Victoria	BCHL	C	L	5.10.5*	195
15	Harley, Thomas	Aug 19/01	Mississauga	OHL	D	L	6.03*	188
16	Caufield, Cole	Jan 2/01	USA U18	NTDP	C	R	5.06*	150
17	Robertson, Matthew	Mar 9/01	Edmonton	WHL	LD	L	6.03*	201
18	Poulin, Samuel	Feb 25/01	Sherbrooke	QMJHL	LW	L	6.01.25*	206
19	Tomasino, Philip	Jul 28/01	Niagara	OHL	C	R	5.11.75*	178
20	Suzuki, Ryan	May 28/01	Barrie	OHL	C	L	6.00.25*	178
21	Broberg, Philip	Jun 25/01	AIK IF	SweAl	LD	L	6.02.75*	199
22	Nikolayev, Ilya	Jun 26/01	Yaroslavl Loko	MHL	C	L	6	190
23	Brink, Bobby	Jul 8/01	Sioux City	USHL	C	R	5.08.25*	159
24	Leason, Brett	Apr 30/99	Prince Albert	WHL	C	R	6.03.75*	200
25	Bjornfot, Tobias	Apr 6/01	Djurgardens J20	SweJE	LD	L	6.00*	202
26	Afanasyev, Egor	Jan 23/01	Muskegon	USHL	C	L	6.03.5*	201
27	Seider, Moritz	Apr 6/01	Mannheimer	GerE	RD	R	6.03.5*	183
28	Kaliyev, Arthur	Jun 26/01	Hamilton	OHL	LW	L	6.01.25*	190
29	Korczak, Kaedan	Jan 29/01	Kelowna	WHL	RD	R	6.02.75*	192
30	Warren, Marshall	Apr 20/01	USA U18	NTDP	LD	L	5.10.25*	161
31	Pelletier, Jakob	Mar 7/01	Moncton	QMJHL	C	L	5.09*	161
Goaltenders
1	Knight, Spencer DE	Apr 19/01	USA U18	NTDP	G	L	6.02.5*	193
2	Kochetkov, Pyotr RE	Jun 25/99	Ryazan	VHL	G	L	6.03	205

Published April 3, 2019

USA U18 centerman Alex Turcotte takes the #6 spot in the April ISS Rankings after a sensational post-injury run. Dennis MacInnis, Director of Scouting for ISS Hockey, observed Turcotte’s skills, stating:

“Alex missed a bunch of games due to injury early in the season but since his return he’s been LIGHTS OUT. As a result, he has moved back up the rankings to #6 overall. Turcotte is a crafty two-way player with speed, slick passing skills and offensive instincts; his grit and passion are just a bonus. He’s fast, smart and skilled with the ability to be a difference maker.”

[Thorner]

Mock Draft from The Score:

https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1755689

[Crusader1969]

28 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Mock Draft from The Score:

https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1755689

wow, this would be an amazing result for the Sabres.  I guess the reality is now it is possible, especially if Caufield gets taken before they pick.  Imagine a team being able to write in Dahlin and Byram as their top 2 LHD for the next 10-13 years

Edited May 1, 2019 by Crusader1969

[Thorner]

12 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

wow, this would be an amazing result for the Sabres.  I guess the reality is now it is possible, especially if Caufield gets taken before they pick.  Imagine a team being able to write in Dahlin and Byram as their top 2 LHD for the next 10-13 years

We'll have drafted the top rated defenceman two years in a row, with one being a first overall. Sign me up. 

Botterill would have to venture into the CHL, though..

Edited May 1, 2019 by Thorny

[Brawndo]

21 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

wow, this would be an amazing result for the Sabres.  I guess the reality is now it is possible, especially if Caufield gets taken before they pick.  Imagine a team being able to write in Dahlin and Byram as their top 2 LHD for the next 10-13 years

 

9 minutes ago, Thorny said:

We'll have drafted the top rated defenceman two years in a row, with one being a first overall. Sign me up. 

Botterill would have to venture into the CHL, though..

Byram is an outstanding defenseman and would solidify the Top 4, however this team’s prospect pool is woefully short of Top 6 Forwards. Is there more value in a future Top 6 Forward or a 2nd Pairing D Man at 7th Overall? 

[Thorner]

5 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

 

Byram is an outstanding defenseman and would solidify the Top 4, however this team’s prospect pool is woefully short of Top 6 Forwards. Is there more value in a future Top 6 Forward or a 2nd Pairing D Man at 7th Overall? 

I bet you the second pair D can play more minutes a game than whoever that forward is. 

If Byram is as good as they say, I much fancy the idea of having one of Dahlin or Byram on the ice for basically the entirety of every playoff game, once we eventually make it. 

And I'm sure the difference between Byram and McCabe on pair 2 is as large or larger than the gap between potential forward selection/current forward. 

Edited May 1, 2019 by Thorny

[dudacek]

7 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

 

Byram is an outstanding defenseman and would solidify the Top 4, however this team’s prospect pool is woefully short of Top 6 Forwards. Is there more value in a future Top 6 Forward or a 2nd Pairing D Man at 7th Overall? 

You say second because Dahlin is 1st LD? Because Boldy looks like he could be a 1st pairing guy to me.

This draft is starting to scare me: too many potential first-liners available where we are picking. You know one or two will boom and one or two will bust and we can’t afford to be the latter.

[Taro T]

1 hour ago, Brawndo said:

 

Byram is an outstanding defenseman and would solidify the Top 4, however this team’s prospect pool is woefully short of Top 6 Forwards. Is there more value in a future Top 6 Forward or a 2nd Pairing D Man at 7th Overall? 

The Sabres prospect pool is woefully short on both top 6 forwards & top 4 D.  I'm fine w/ them emulating the Ducks from ~ a dozen years ago playing either Pronger or Neidermayer essentially the entire game.  If Byram really is the top D prospect, landing him would not be a bad thing.  (No schlitz, Sherlock. ;))

[Hoss]

the sabres need to take BPA. if the staff judges that to be byram that’s fine. i’m rooting forward but won’t do a backflip into a pool full of sharks if it’s not.

[Weave]

20 minutes ago, Hoss said:

the sabres need to take BPA. if the staff judges that to be byram that’s fine. i’m rooting forward but won’t do a backflip into a pool full of sharks if it’s not.

Given where we are today, how could anyone not suggest BPA?  Just get some friggin talent in hte door.

[Thorner]

38 minutes ago, Weave said:

Given where we are today, how could anyone not suggest BPA?  Just get some friggin talent in hte door.

Don't disagree, and given where Byram is ranked on most lists, if he's available at 7 I wouldn't be surprised if he's exactly that. 

https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/326522/bowen-byram - his placement in some rankings there, nothing higher than 6. Honestly, I'll be very surprised if he falls to 7.