Hoss Posted April 13, 2019 Report Posted April 13, 2019 Friedman and Jeff Marek have both tossed out the idea of us trading for Boudreau. No clue what it would take but there’s some people on Twitter who have been saying we should offer our late first for him. What say you? If we do that I say Fire Botterill before the trade goes through.
Weave Posted April 13, 2019 Report Posted April 13, 2019 Just now, Hoss said: Friedman and Jeff Marek have both tossed out the idea of us trading for Boudreau. No clue what it would take but there’s some people on Twitter who have been saying we should offer our late first for him. What say you? If we do that I say Fire Botterill before the trade goes through. Responses to this would definitely reflect how someone values a coachs contribution the teams' success. It's an interesting idea. I'm not automatically down on it. Did we give up a pick for Botteril? Or was it Bylsma maybe? Am I misremembering?
In The Buff Posted April 13, 2019 Report Posted April 13, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Weave said: Responses to this would definitely reflect how someone values a coachs contribution the teams' success. It's an interesting idea. I'm not automatically down on it. Did we give up a pick for Botteril? Or was it Bylsma maybe? Am I misremembering? Sabres gave a 3rd RD pick for Bylsma back in the day. idk if thats what u were thinking of Edited April 13, 2019 by MillerVaive 1
dudacek Posted April 13, 2019 Report Posted April 13, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, MillerVaive said: Sabres gave a 3rd RD pick for Bylsma back in the day. idk if thats what u were thinking of Yep. It was a league rule that shafted Buffalo and Edmonton and I think one other team before they changed it. Outside of rule-mandated compensation, Quebec traded Michel Bergeron to the Rangers for a 1st rounder in 1987. First time such a deal had ever happened and the only time I can remember. Not an option I’m interested in. Edited April 13, 2019 by dudacek
#freejame Posted April 13, 2019 Report Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Hoss said: Friedman and Jeff Marek have both tossed out the idea of us trading for Boudreau. No clue what it would take but there’s some people on Twitter who have been saying we should offer our late first for him. What say you? If we do that I say Fire Botterill before the trade goes through. Disgusting. I absolutely agree that it would be a fireable offense.
LGR4GM Posted April 13, 2019 Report Posted April 13, 2019 We trade a pick to get a coach? Holy hell no.
Thorner Posted April 13, 2019 Report Posted April 13, 2019 (edited) Look, I don't want to trade the pick for a coach either, really, but to play devil's advocate, if Housley was as detrimental to this team's success as many think, if a coach has that much impact, I could be persuaded that giving up a late first for a coach is the right move, if for some reason Botterill is absolutely certain that coach is the right man for the job. What good would that player from that pick be if it's a Housley-ish guy implementing him? Edited April 13, 2019 by Thorny
Buffalo Wings Posted April 14, 2019 Report Posted April 14, 2019 Someone call Scott Sandelin from UMD. His teams play the right way. Solid defense, great goaltending, great PK. Timely and opportunistic scoring. I’ve seen this guy run a great program for the past 10 years (he’s been there longer than that) and he makes his teams play hard every game. He’s on the cusp of winning a second straight national championship. He might be willing to jump to this level.
Curt Posted April 14, 2019 Report Posted April 14, 2019 9 hours ago, LGR4GM said: We trade a pick to get a coach? Holy hell no. Who said anything about a pick? Maybe they want to add the best #2C in the league, Sobotka. 1
Ducky Posted April 14, 2019 Report Posted April 14, 2019 Luckily for the Sabres the garden gnome is signed in Minny...stay away from him.
Huckleberry Posted April 14, 2019 Report Posted April 14, 2019 Starting to think its going to be AV. I'm just not wowed by the choices we have at the moment. I mean I'd take Ruff back before anyone else.
Doohicksie Posted April 14, 2019 Report Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) Adam Oates? The Attention to Detail portion of the article alone makes me want to say, "Preach it, brother!" Edited April 14, 2019 by Doohickie
#freejame Posted April 14, 2019 Report Posted April 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Doohickie said: Adam Oates? The Attention to Detail portion of the article alone makes me want to say, "Preach it, brother!" God no. He neutered Ovi and had the Caps miss the playoffs under him.
Doohicksie Posted April 14, 2019 Report Posted April 14, 2019 You don't think he's learned anything since then? I look at what his business is now, and that sounds a LOT like what the Sabres need as a team.
WildCard Posted April 14, 2019 Report Posted April 14, 2019 32 minutes ago, Doohickie said: You don't think he's learned anything since then? I look at what his business is now, and that sounds a LOT like what the Sabres need as a team. Which is why he won't be a head coach. He's been on podcasts, he loves that business and won't leave it. Kinda like Jordan Palmer
Doohicksie Posted April 14, 2019 Report Posted April 14, 2019 It basically states as much in the blog post I linked. Just throwing it out there on a Sunday morning.
Hoss Posted April 14, 2019 Report Posted April 14, 2019 I’ve repeatedly said I don’t really care a whole lot about the next coach (outside of being adamant that we CANNOT give up a high draft pick for one) but if I had my own choice it’d be Sheldon Keefe. I will be happy if that ends up happening and I won’t care much if it doesn’t. 1
WildCard Posted April 14, 2019 Report Posted April 14, 2019 28 minutes ago, Hoss said: I’ve repeatedly said I don’t really care a whole lot about the next coach (outside of being adamant that we CANNOT give up a high draft pick for one) but if I had my own choice it’d be Sheldon Keefe. I will be happy if that ends up happening and I won’t care much if it doesn’t. We've seen what a coaching disaster can look like, and around the league we've seen just how much a good coach is worth. I think this is a big deal for us 2
... Posted April 14, 2019 Report Posted April 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Doohickie said: You don't think he's learned anything since then? I look at what his business is now, and that sounds a LOT like what the Sabres need as a team. This is like asking if Disco Dan learned anything by watching TV.
TrueBlueGED Posted April 14, 2019 Report Posted April 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, WildCard said: We've seen what a coaching disaster can look like, and around the league we've seen just how much a good coach is worth. I think this is a big deal for us I think Hoss' point is he has no idea who is going to be good until they're good, so he won't get too bent out of shape over it. 1
Weave Posted April 14, 2019 Report Posted April 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: I think Hoss' point is he has no idea who is going to be good until they're good, so he won't get too bent out of shape over it. That's about where I am at. Then again, I'm numb enough that this team doesn't rise any kind of emotion anymore, good or bad.
Stoner Posted April 14, 2019 Report Posted April 14, 2019 It's too bad, really. We can't just sit back as fans and trust that a good decision is going to be made. So we feel like we have to make the decision for them. It's fun, I suppose.
Hoss Posted April 14, 2019 Report Posted April 14, 2019 3 hours ago, TrueBlueGED said: I think Hoss' point is he has no idea who is going to be good until they're good, so he won't get too bent out of shape over it. Precisely. Life is stressful enough. Coaching is an area where there simply isn't enough data available to fans for us to actually know anything. I'll continue to think it's a useless exercise to get worked up over candidates. 3 hours ago, WildCard said: We've seen what a coaching disaster can look like, and around the league we've seen just how much a good coach is worth. I think this is a big deal for us It's definitely a huge moment for the franchise but see above.
Weave Posted April 14, 2019 Report Posted April 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, Hoss said: Precisely. Life is stressful enough. Coaching is an area where there simply isn't enough data available to fans for us to actually know anything. I think the same is true of prospects as well. I can't get overly excited when I'm nowhere near qualified to make a judgement about them.
Hoss Posted April 14, 2019 Report Posted April 14, 2019 Just now, Weave said: I think the same is true of prospects as well. I can't get overly excited when I'm nowhere near qualified to make a judgement about them. Yea, I try not to get too up or down outside of the true top picks (like 1-2). Generally there's a "can't miss/would be a historic bust" player or two in each draft. Beyond that it's really tough to judge. I do get a little more involved with prospects, but it's more for self-entertainment than anything.
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