LGR4GM Posted April 21, 2019 Report Posted April 21, 2019 On 4/21/2019 at 1:41 PM, North Buffalo said: My only thought now is that this needs to happen sooner than later to give Sabres a chance to adequately court free agents. Expand Why? You can't court anyone until what? Late June. There's no rush. Literally none.
Radar Posted April 21, 2019 Report Posted April 21, 2019 On 4/21/2019 at 12:29 PM, LGR4GM said: Guess it's a good thing they played those games then. Also I'm not talking about the teams win record. Go look at facilities and the owner. You made the leap to eichel. No one else has. Odd considering end of year comments and interviews. Expand Not leaping to him at all. Just saying that if ego is involved it could be anyone. Let's face it everyone has an ego and athletes certainly. If rumor is true I would not exclude anyone and if it's not one of our top guys you would think he would be gone as this same rumbling has been heard for a couple years it seems. I like Eichel and hope he's as respected by his teammates as their captain.
North Buffalo Posted April 21, 2019 Report Posted April 21, 2019 On 4/21/2019 at 1:52 PM, LGR4GM said: Why? You can't court anyone until what? Late June. There's no rush. Literally none. Expand You can but without a coach, it may effect your sales pitch... just saying
JJFIVEOH Posted April 21, 2019 Report Posted April 21, 2019 It sure would be nice to have a coach before the draft. 2
LGR4GM Posted April 21, 2019 Report Posted April 21, 2019 On 4/21/2019 at 3:37 PM, North Buffalo said: You can but without a coach, it may effect your sales pitch... just saying Expand What sales pitch? There's nothing tti pitch for 2 months.
North Buffalo Posted April 21, 2019 Report Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) On 4/21/2019 at 5:39 PM, LGR4GM said: What sales pitch? There's nothing tti pitch for 2 months. Expand Yeh got that, but minds are often made up or at least narrowed down before then where folks want to go if the offer is there and without a coach Sabres are still a question mark. Again, the sooner the better. Part of that Sales pitch is who is the team's coach. Edited April 21, 2019 by North Buffalo
LGR4GM Posted April 21, 2019 Report Posted April 21, 2019 On 4/21/2019 at 5:45 PM, North Buffalo said: Yeh got that, but minds are often made up or at least narrowed down before then where folks want to go if the offer is there and without a coach Sabres are still a question mark. Again, the sooner the better. Expand I don't agree. Some of the ufas are still playing. What's it matter if we hire a guy in april or may?
North Buffalo Posted April 21, 2019 Report Posted April 21, 2019 On 4/21/2019 at 5:47 PM, LGR4GM said: I don't agree. Some of the ufas are still playing. What's it matter if we hire a guy in april or may? Expand Let's put it this way, in Presidential elections the winner doesn't win in August, but the loser can sure lose the election then. The sales pitch is a process and having a good coach, or not one in place puts you behind the 8 ball the longer you wait...
LGR4GM Posted April 21, 2019 Report Posted April 21, 2019 On 4/21/2019 at 5:49 PM, North Buffalo said: Let's put it this way, in Presidential elections the winner doesn't win in August, but the loser can sure lose the election then. The sales pitch is a process and having a good coach, or not one in place puts you behind the 8 ball the longer you wait... Expand No, it doesn't. That's literally not the same thing. There's no sale to pitch yet.
North Buffalo Posted April 21, 2019 Report Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) Can that deficit be overcome... sure, but it is an disadvantage, especially for a young developing team. On 4/21/2019 at 5:51 PM, LGR4GM said: No, it doesn't. That's literally not the same thing. There's no sale to pitch yet. Expand Overtly no, but I think it is part of the sales pitch that starts much earlier than you acknowledge....we will have to agree to disagree. Edited April 21, 2019 by North Buffalo
LGR4GM Posted April 21, 2019 Report Posted April 21, 2019 I just don't agree most of the pitches have started. By mid May, maybe but not now.
Doohickie Posted April 21, 2019 Report Posted April 21, 2019 On 4/21/2019 at 1:52 PM, LGR4GM said: Why? You can't court anyone until what? Late June. There's no rush. Literally none. Expand Well, there's one free agent they need to court....
Stoner Posted April 21, 2019 Report Posted April 21, 2019 I still don't know who the coach should be. I can't believe some of you smart people can't make better guesses based on the system/style Botterill was trying to establish. Or is he abandoning that going into his must-win third season — that is, now it'll be "fit the system to the players"?
Brawndo Posted April 21, 2019 Report Posted April 21, 2019 On 4/21/2019 at 1:41 PM, Weave said: A source close to the Sabres indicated that, when they failed to land McLellan....... Hmmm.......... Expand I wonder if that Burnside’s Wording on the Situation or did that actually occur? Greg Brady, no not that one, from TSN Toronto was on WGR yesterday and mentioned he has no inside knowledge of the situation but it would not surprise him if the Sabres and Sheldon Keefe had something worked out already. 1
#freejame Posted April 21, 2019 Report Posted April 21, 2019 On 4/21/2019 at 8:24 PM, Brawndo said: I wonder if that Burnside’s Wording on the Situation or did that actually occur? Greg Brady, no not that one, from TSN Toronto was on WGR yesterday and mentioned he has no inside knowledge of the situation but it would not surprise him if the Sabres and Sheldon Keefe had something worked out already. Expand That was also what I was thinking. Nothing I read indicated they “failed” to hire him, just that Botts did his due diligence. 1
Brawndo Posted April 21, 2019 Report Posted April 21, 2019 Mark Hunter received a second interview with Edmonton for their GM Position. Does he try to take DJ Smith or Sheldon Keefe with him?
MakeSabresGrr8Again Posted April 21, 2019 Report Posted April 21, 2019 On 4/21/2019 at 11:58 AM, LGR4GM said: Let's talk about ottawa... Expand On 4/21/2019 at 11:58 AM, LGR4GM said: Let's talk about ottawa... Expand Not many options is my point. Not much of a punishment that's for sure.
Taro T Posted April 21, 2019 Report Posted April 21, 2019 On 4/21/2019 at 11:43 AM, LGR4GM said: The question is which guys. I think I can name 1, Risto. I'd ditch Sobotka too. He complained about he role but was utter trash on every line in any role. You need a coach that holds players accountable. Guy wants to go rogue and ignore you, staple him to the bench. Make him do the worst drills in practice. Tell him it will stay like that until he gets it through his big ego that the team comes first. And if that doesn't work, trade him to the worst place you can. Expand Coming from Hamilton, would expect that "guys" being defined as Reinhart & Ristolainen. Perhaps others but definitely those 2. Not saying he'd be right, but those seem to be 2 Sabres he doesn't have a good professional working relationship with.
Doohickie Posted April 21, 2019 Report Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) I swear if they trade Reinhart, the Sabres will regret it. Edited April 21, 2019 by Doohickie 2 2
sabresouth Posted April 21, 2019 Report Posted April 21, 2019 On 4/21/2019 at 10:43 PM, Doohickie said: I swear if they trade Reinhart, the Sabres will regret it. Expand Agreed, second in points, only behind Jack. He's not flashy or dynamic but just gets the job done.
rakish Posted April 22, 2019 Report Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/21/2019 at 11:21 PM, sabresouth said: Agreed, second in points, only behind Jack. He's not flashy or dynamic but just gets the job done. Expand One year ago Reinhart went before the media and said, to paraphrase, I do better when I don't listen to the coach, so I'm not going to listen to the coach. Sabrespace never mentions this, I call it Flow Denial, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Sabres have been looking for a deal for the last year.
#freejame Posted April 22, 2019 Report Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 12:22 AM, utsvävande said: One year ago Reinhart went before the media and said, to paraphrase, I do better when I don't listen to the coach, so I'm not going to listen to the coach. Sabrespace never mentions this, I call it Flow Denial, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Sabres have been looking for a deal for the last year. Expand Link/source?
WildCard Posted April 22, 2019 Report Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 12:22 AM, utsvävande said: One year ago Reinhart went before the media and said, to paraphrase, I do better when I don't listen to the coach, so I'm not going to listen to the coach. Sabrespace never mentions this, I call it Flow Denial, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Sabres have been looking for a deal for the last year. Expand I remember that. And he's been playing a ton better ever since
rakish Posted April 22, 2019 Report Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 12:38 AM, WildCard said: I remember that. And he's been playing a ton better ever since Expand yeah, but Botterill needed to choose either Housley or Reinhart a year ago, for me this past year had to happen as it did, since Housley had lost the room a year ago.
Zamboni Posted April 22, 2019 Author Report Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/21/2019 at 10:43 PM, Doohickie said: I swear if they trade Reinhart, the Sabres will regret it. Expand Big time. Just as much if not more than not replacing ROR this past season. It will be huge. Unless Sabres get an overpayment for him.
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