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Gatorman0519 First Liner

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  On 4/18/2019 at 10:27 PM, dudacek said:

Julien, Quenville, Babcock...why fight back with a lesser version of the division’ coaching leaders? Let’s chart our own path.

Sheldon Keefe is a tough, attacking, competitive, technically savvy communicator who has developed youth and won at every level. Don’t knee jerk away from a rookie because of Housley. He’s not Housley. Let’s be ahead of the curve for once.

Plus it would mess with the Leafs. He’s ready. Do it.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/toronto-marlies-sheldon-keefe-1.4707771

https://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/2018/04/07/keefes-winning-style-could-give-marlies-boss-a-ride-to-nhl.html

https://theathletic.com/233808/2018/02/16/the-marlies-master-of-detail-how-head-coach-sheldon-keefe-has-led-the-leafs-ahl-affiliate-to-historic-heights/

 

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He is my number one choice right now

LTS First Liner

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  On 4/19/2019 at 12:46 AM, Pimlach said:

 

Gentlemen, while I agree that the Canes were fortunate that we had injuries but all 6 starters is wrong.  

According to records we played game one of the series with Lyman, Fitzpatrick, Tallinder, Numinem, McKee, Campbell.  Fitz was our 7th defensemen and replaced an injured Kalinin back in the Ottawa series    

We played game-seven of the series with Lyman, Fitzpatrick, Paetsch, Janik, Jillson, Campbell. 

We lost 3 defenseman in the Carolina series, 4 overall.  

Not 6.  

 

 

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Okay.. I'll go with that.  Although I thought both Lydman and Campbell had been injured at some point.  Perhaps the timing is off.  We'll go with 4 of the top 6.. and I'm still going with fluke.  

Laviolette's only run comes when his opponent his extremely hindered on defense and they still barely won and managed to face the Oilers who somehow finagled their way into the SCF despite being terrible.

Either way, I'm wholly unimpressed with Laviolette.  Also, he's from the New England area and I still recall his accent.  EVery press conference would feel like I was listening to a Bruins game... and I can't have that.

 

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Curt First Liner

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  On 4/19/2019 at 3:18 AM, LTS said:

Laviolette's only run comes when his opponent his extremely hindered on defense and they still barely won and managed to face the Oilers who somehow finagled their way into the SCF despite being terrible.

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He’s taken two other teams to the Stanley Cup Finals though.  A Flyers team with Michael Leighton/Brian Boucher splitting playoff starts in goal, and Nashville a couple years ago.

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Man, I wish we could nail down the Terry-really-hired-Wowie angle. I trust Brawndo, but it just can't be entered as evidence yet.

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Radar Second Liner

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  On 4/19/2019 at 11:10 AM, PASabreFan said:

Man, I wish we could nail down the Terry-really-hired-Wowie angle. I trust Brawndo, but it just can't be entered as evidence yet.

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And why do you wish this?......oh, never mind guess that's quite obvious.

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  On 4/19/2019 at 11:36 AM, Radar said:

And why do you wish this?......oh, never mind guess that's quite obvious.

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It's OK for you to think I'm too negative or have an axe to grind with the owner (I do). But I would ask you this: if it went down that way, are you OK with the owner telling his new GM who the coach should be?

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  On 4/19/2019 at 11:10 AM, PASabreFan said:

Man, I wish we could nail down the Terry-really-hired-Wowie angle. I trust Brawndo, but it just can't be entered as evidence yet.

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You'll never get the evidence you want.  Suffice to say, Phil's hiring has Pegula written all over it.

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Zamboni First Liner

Zamboni

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I don’t care who on this forum says otherwise ... Terry without a doubt in my mind, had a say in hiring Housley, Bylsma, and Nolan. I hope he 100% stays out of the next hire.

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Terry is in love with All former Sabres - see Perreault. The Housley hiring has his hands all it. I loved what Ray said about Housley about 15 years ago

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  On 4/19/2019 at 12:44 PM, ct fab said:

Terry is in love with All former Sabres - see Perreault. The Housley hiring has his hands all it. I loved what Ray said about Housley about 15 years ago

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For those of us memory impaired, could you paraphrase?

Radar Second Liner

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  On 4/19/2019 at 12:23 PM, PASabreFan said:

It's OK for you to think I'm too negative or have an axe to grind with the owner (I do). But I would ask you this: if it went down that way, are you OK with the owner telling his new GM who the coach should be?

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While I may not want our owner dictating who the GM hires I'm sure most owners have some say. If I owned the team I would expect to. So, is the concern because it's this particular owner or do you think no owners should be involved?  Most,not all, on this board seemed to approve of the Housley hire myself included. Now that it appears to have been a mistake we blame ownership and divorce ourselves from our initial approval of the hire.

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  On 4/19/2019 at 1:04 PM, Radar said:

While I may not want our owner dictating who the GM hires I'm sure most owners have some say. If I owned the team I would expect to. So, is the concern because it's this particular owner or do you think no owners should be involved?  Most,not all, on this board seemed to approve of the Housley hire myself included. Now that it appears to have been a mistake we blame ownership and divorce ourselves from our initial approval of the hire.

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This is a good point.  I want botts to have full say on this hire but we shouldn’t forget the housley hire was almost unanimously approved by the fan base at the time.

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  On 4/19/2019 at 1:04 PM, Radar said:

While I may not want our owner dictating who the GM hires I'm sure most owners have some say. If I owned the team I would expect to. So, is the concern because it's this particular owner or do you think no owners should be involved?  Most,not all, on this board seemed to approve of the Housley hire myself included. Now that it appears to have been a mistake we blame ownership and divorce ourselves from our initial approval of the hire.

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I mentioned previously that Botterill is a "yes" man. I took criticism for labeling him that because I really had no proof, it was merely an opinion. I guess the criticism was justified. But, based on what is general knowledge that Murray got fired for calling Kim bad names, I can see how the owners meddle in the decision making. 

With that in mind, I don't agree with that mentality. Viola meddled in the decision making for the Panthers, especially when it came to the GM by committee concept. Until he figured out that didn't work and gave power back to Tsllon. And Viola hasn't been heard from since. 

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  On 4/19/2019 at 1:04 PM, Radar said:

While I may not want our owner dictating who the GM hires I'm sure most owners have some say. If I owned the team I would expect to. So, is the concern because it's this particular owner or do you think no owners should be involved?  Most,not all, on this board seemed to approve of the Housley hire myself included. Now that it appears to have been a mistake we blame ownership and divorce ourselves from our initial approval of the hire.

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If the CEO of a car company has a masters in business and finance. And doesn’t know gear ratios, struts, and how to interpret crash test results, then he/she needs to stay the F away from telling the experts in those areas how to do their job and influencing their decisions in such matters. 

Owners (unless they are very knowledgeable about what makes a great coach) should stay the F away from influencing who coaches a team.

Why is that logic flawed?

 

What logical, well thought out reason is there that says Pegula must have a say?  Not “feelings” or “the right to” or “but but but he owns the team/writes the checks”

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  On 4/19/2019 at 1:11 PM, JJFIVEOH said:

I mentioned previously that Botterill is a "yes" man. I took criticism for labeling him that because I really had no proof, it was merely an opinion. I guess the criticism was justified. But, based on what is general knowledge that Murray got fired for calling Kim bad names, I can see how the owners meddle in the decision making. 

With that in mind, I don't agree with that mentality. Viola meddled in the decision making for the Panthers, especially when it came to the GM by committee concept. Until he figured out that didn't work and gave power back to Tsllon. And Viola hasn't been heard from since. 

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No.  Not general knowledge.  Not anything other than completely unsubstantiated message board rumor.

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  On 4/19/2019 at 1:11 PM, JJFIVEOH said:

I mentioned previously that Botterill is a "yes" man. I took criticism for labeling him that because I really had no proof, it was merely an opinion. I guess the criticism was justified. But, based on what is general knowledge that Murray got fired for calling Kim bad names, I can see how the owners meddle in the decision making. 

With that in mind, I don't agree with that mentality. Viola meddled in the decision making for the Panthers, especially when it came to the GM by committee concept. Until he figured out that didn't work and gave power back to Tsllon. And Viola hasn't been heard from since. 

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  On 4/19/2019 at 1:34 PM, nfreeman said:

No.  Not general knowledge.  Not anything other than completely unsubstantiated message board rumor.

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Are you saying that most people haven't brought up the fact that Murray wasn't fired for another other reason? It surely wasn't because he wasn't performing because he never had the opportunity to prove himself. He deserved at least another year. 

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https://theathletic.com/922727/2019/04/19/stimson-how-the-next-sabres-coach-can-improve-the-teams-forecheck-and-breakouts/

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It’s also important to note that this cannot be explained away with “they didn’t have talent” either. Look at some of the teams that had good forechecking – Detroit, Arizona, Vancouver. Yes, those teams were awful at breaking the puck out, but those are two different phases of the game. You can be good at both like Carolina, but it’s more likely that a team is good at one or the other. The question is, how to improve?

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This is a good article on why Housley's overall system was bad and how he failed. You can see how stationary the Sabres are when exiting or entering a zone. You can see what a good team can do. Really good read. 

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