LGR4GM Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 4:26 AM, JJFIVEOH said: I'm surprised that Botterill had the balls to do it. I never thought he would. Since he messed up on the O'Reilly trade and let Lehner go (I give Botts credit, perhaps Lehner wanted to leave, and for good reason). Since he is a "yes" man, perhaps it wasn't his decision. We'll see, the next few weeks should be fun. Then we'll all have to wait and talk about movies and Games of Thrones, lol. Expand I will bet you money Robin Lehner will have regression next season. Quote
nfreeman Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 4:26 AM, JJFIVEOH said: Since he is a "yes" man, Expand What’s the basis for this? Quote
Doohicksie Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 1:13 PM, nfreeman said: What’s the basis for this? Expand He still works for the Pegulas. ? Quote
Stoner Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 12:26 AM, Doohickie said: I always thought that was a weird way to put it. JBot: "So Phil, you're not gonna be the coach anymore." XHCPH: "Boy, am I relieved!" Expand I wonder if the terminology is important in some legal sense. Why not "fired"? Quote
inkman Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 2:35 PM, PASabreFan said: I wonder if the terminology is important in some legal sense. Why not "fired"? Expand Contract is the reason I believe. He gone get paid. Quote
Stoner Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 2:47 PM, inkman said: Contract is the reason I believe. He gone get paid. Expand Of course. But not if he got "fired"? I'd bet we never hear from Phil in the NHL again. Quote
Hoss Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 For anybody rooting for Boudreau, Fenton says he is staying in Minnesota. 2 Quote
WildCard Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 3:37 PM, PASabreFan said: Of course. But not if he got "fired"? I'd bet we never hear from Phil in the NHL again. Expand He will get an assistant job soon enough On 4/9/2019 at 3:40 PM, Hoss said: For anybody rooting for Boudreau, Fenton says he is staying in Minnesota. Expand Sounds like it's pretty much AV or McLellan then Quote
Stoner Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 3:42 PM, WildCard said: He will get an assistant job soon enough Expand I don't feel it. Back in Minny he and his wife will be big deals and at home. They took their shots at the bigs and failed. They're fine and will be happy. Just a hunch. Quote
Derrico Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 3:42 PM, WildCard said: He will get an assistant job soon enough Sounds like it's pretty much AV or McLellan then Expand That's my thought as well. I kind of like the idea of AV. Why is everyone against that? Quote
darksabre Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 3:45 PM, Derrico said: That's my thought as well. I kind of like the idea of AV. Why is everyone against that? Expand I'm more in favor of AV than T-mac. Quote
WildCard Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 3:45 PM, Derrico said: That's my thought as well. I kind of like the idea of AV. Why is everyone against that? Expand True's observation that AV is all counter attack is terrifying On 4/9/2019 at 3:47 PM, darksabre said: I'm more in favor of AV than T-mac. Expand Same Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 3:45 PM, Derrico said: That's my thought as well. I kind of like the idea of AV. Why is everyone against that? Expand His handling of the NYR roster is about as inspiring as death. He was Bylsma. Quote
Doohicksie Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 (edited) On 4/9/2019 at 2:35 PM, PASabreFan said: I wonder if the terminology is important in some legal sense. Why not "fired"? Expand Legal stuff is funny. Even though you might think of him as fired for failure to meet goals, he did meet the terms of his contract. "Fired" is more generally reserved for either a breach of contract or immoral/illegal conduct. Relieved of duties implies he doesn't lose any pay owed under the contract.* *stayed at a Holiday Inn last night answer. Edited April 9, 2019 by Doohickie Quote
Derrico Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 3:57 PM, TrueBlueGED said: His handling of the NYR roster is about as inspiring as death. He was Bylsma. Expand I thought he was excellent when coaching Vancouver and pretty good with Montreal too. Didn't he have one deep run with a mediocre Rags team as well? Quote
WildCard Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 4:18 PM, Derrico said: I thought he was excellent when coaching Vancouver and pretty good with Montreal too. Didn't he have one deep run with a mediocre Rags team as well? Expand He went to the Cup with the Rangers. Quote
Derrico Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 4:20 PM, WildCard said: He went to the Cup with the Rangers. Expand So he took two different teams, with different styles to the cup finals. I really don't understand the hate. The Rags were built with aging veterans. I'm not sure how much blame he deserves for the end of his term with the Rags. It's not like they lit the world on fire this year after he left. His teams made the playoffs 11 of 15 years as a head coach. If we're going with a guy having experience I would be more than fine with AV (I think I even prefer him to McLellan). 1 Quote
Derrico Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 (edited) So it looks like AV took a 77 point Montreal team the year before to the second round of the playoffs in his first year. Then, his next stint he took a 92 point Vancouver team (season before) to a 105 point team and again made it to the second round. As for the Rags he had a similar record to the season before he arrived. Those are some nice bumps with his arrival (ofcourse not looking into any roster moves that may have impacted the stats). Edited April 9, 2019 by Derrico Quote
Derrico Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 Guy has been nominated for the Jack Adams FOUR friggen times! 1 Quote
WildCard Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 4:36 PM, Derrico said: So it looks like AV took a 77 point Montreal team the year before to the second round of the playoffs in his first year. Then, his next stint he took a 92 point Vancouver team (season before) to a 105 point team and again made it to the second round. As for the Rags he had a similar record to the season before he arrived. Those are some nice bumps with his arrival (ofcourse not looking into any roster moves that may have impacted the stats). Expand He did it back when the league was focused on being big and strong though, and offense was dead. The league just isn't like that anymore Quote
darksabre Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 4:40 PM, WildCard said: He did it back when the league was focused on being big and strong though, and offense was dead. The league just isn't like that anymore Expand When was Vancouver ever big and strong? 1 Quote
Derrico Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 (edited) On 4/9/2019 at 4:40 PM, WildCard said: He did it back when the league was focused on being big and strong though, and offense was dead. The league just isn't like that anymore Expand His teams were bad the last two years but he went to the second round in 2017. That's not that long ago. Edit - Sorry, he was only bad for one season as Quinn coached last year. Second round in 2017. Edited April 9, 2019 by Derrico Quote
Derrico Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 Google the 2016/2017 Rangers roster. He took THAT team to the second round.....in 2017. Quote
WildCard Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 4:41 PM, darksabre said: When was Vancouver ever big and strong? Expand I didn't say they were big and strong, I said they found a way to play in that league; if you're not big and strong and the other team is, then you can't cycle/maintain zone time as well. But, if you're small and fast, which his teams all were, they can at least counter attack On 4/9/2019 at 4:46 PM, Derrico said: Google the 2016/2017 Rangers roster. He took THAT team to the second round.....in 2017. Expand Well, Lundvist did Quote
darksabre Posted April 9, 2019 Report Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 4:48 PM, WildCard said: I didn't say they were big and strong, I said they found a way to play in that league; if you're not big and strong and the other team is, then you can't cycle/maintain zone time as well. But, if you're small and fast, which his teams all were, they can at least counter attack Well, Lundvist did Expand I'm not sure what your point is then. Are you saying AV is good because he was able to coach to his team's strengths? Quote
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