LGR4GM Posted April 18, 2019 Author Report Posted April 18, 2019 Quote Couturier, like Mittelstadt, was a No. 8 overall pick. Excluding the lockout-shortened season of 2012-13, he averaged 13 goals and 35 points for his opening five seasons. He turned it up with 31 goals and 76 points in 2017-18. Johansen, a No. 4 overall selection, had nine goals and 21 points as a rookie. He recorded five goals and 12 points in 40 games as a sophomore. He jumped to 33 goals and 63 points during his third year. O’Reilly had eight goals and 26 points as a rookie, then followed it with 13 goals and 26 points. He put up 18 goals and 55 points during his third season. https://theathletic.com/930356/2019/04/18/forward-look-whats-a-reasonable-expectation-for-casey-mittelstadts-second-full-nhl-season/ 2 Quote
LGR4GM Posted April 18, 2019 Author Report Posted April 18, 2019 I would note that ROR was younger than Mitts as a rookie. He did however put up the same number of points in year 2 (26 and 26). Quote
mjd1001 Posted April 20, 2019 Report Posted April 20, 2019 There are always exceptions, but for the most part with forward drafted high that start in the NHL early in their career....it seems that sometime between the age of 21 - 24 is when you really get to know what their true NHL production is/will be. Quote
Taro T Posted April 20, 2019 Report Posted April 20, 2019 On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 6:09 PM, dudacek said: For clarity's sake, Mittelstadt wasn't our 2C thitc year. He averaged 13:27 a game, behind Sobotka's 14:11, Johan Larsson at 14:18 and the guy who ended up our actual 2C, Evan Rodrigues at 15:49. I say this only because the myth persists: the only stretch where Casey was used anywhere near a 2C happened in February, when he was used for more than 15 minutes in 7 of 8 games. It happened just 9 times in the 50 games before that and twice more the rest of the year. Your point still stands, except for the caveat I would accept the addition of an elite 3C and a legit 1st-line winger in lieu. On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 6:23 PM, TrueBlueGED said: He wasn't the 3 by ice time, but do you think Botterill had designed it that way? I think Botterill had him penciled in at 2 and it just worked out differently because he obviously wasn't ready for it. Didn't start tracking lines until mid-December, but he was officially listed as the 2C 8 of the final 10 gamesin December. The final 5 games of January (out of 10 total). 5 of 10 tracked in February (missed tracking 2 or 3 early that month, oops). After we got to March, he was the 3C except when Eichel was out. So, because he had no PK time & limited PP time (2nd unit got significantly lessice than 1st unit) hisice time wasn't close to 2nd, but he was the 2C @ 5v5 for a SIGNIFICANT portion of the season. They can't do that again & expect to be successful. Would really like to see them go w/ Oloffson Eichel Reinhart Skinner Hays New Guy Sheary Mittelstadt Rodrigues Girgensons Larsson Okposo (he's gonna be somewherein this line up unfortunately, 12th F would di the least damage). And, I'd expect him getting close to 40 getting favorable 5v5 matchups & 2PP (w/ 1st callup to 1PP when mixing stuff up/injuries). When Hayes starts to fade a couple years out, flip him & Mitts. 1 Quote
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