PromoTheRobot Posted April 13, 2006 Report Posted April 13, 2006 The Sabres tied the franchise win record with tonight's victory over Montreal. But how does it compare to the 74-75 team considering the new "no-tie" NHL? Fortunately, that is easy to figure out. The Sabres have played 17 OT games this year (11-6) good for 28 points. Under the old rules, the Sabres would have 17 ties and 11 fewer wins. So comparing 74-75 to today, this is what we'd have: 74-75 Sabres - 49 wins, 16 losses, 15 ties = 113 points 05-06 Sabres - 38 wins, 24 losses, 17 ties = 93 points So the 74-75 team is still far superior. In fact, let's try and project what that team's record would be under the current rules. Considering they had a 3-to-1 ratio of wins over losses, lets assume they won 10 of their 15 tie games in OT. That would have made them: 59 wins, 16 losses, 5 OT losses = 123 POINTS!!! PTR
Taro T Posted April 13, 2006 Report Posted April 13, 2006 The Sabres tied the franchise win record with tonight's victory over Montreal. But how does it compare to the 74-75 team considering the new "no-tie" NHL? Fortunately, that is easy to figure out. The Sabres have played 17 OT games this year (11-6) good for 28 points. Under the old rules, the Sabres would have 17 ties and 11 fewer wins. So comparing 74-75 to today, this is what we'd have: 74-75 Sabres - 49 wins, 16 losses, 15 ties = 113 points 05-06 Sabres - 38 wins, 24 losses, 17 ties = 93 points So the 74-75 team is still far superior. In fact, let's try and project what that team's record would be under the current rules. Considering they had a 3-to-1 ratio of wins over losses, lets assume they won 10 of their 15 tie games in OT. That would have made them: 59 wins, 16 losses, 5 OT losses = 123 POINTS!!! PTR That the '74-'75 team would have finished with more wins given the same tie breaking situation and their particular mix of teams and schedules is, as you state, easy to figure out. To compare the 2 teams regarding which is the more impressive accomplishment isn't that easy to figure out. The '74-'75 team played a much more balanced schedule against a much less balanced league than the current team played. 3 of the 5 worst teams in the league this season are St. Louis, Chicago, and Columbus and the Sabres played no games against any of them. The '74-'75 team played 5 games against one of the 3 worst teams (and quite possibly the WORST team) of the modern era. There is no current team that even comes close to rivaling the '75 Caps. There were teams in the AHL and IHL that could very easily have taken a playoff series from that team. That '74-'75 Sabres team got to play 24 games against teams with 60 or fewer points. The current team will have gotten to play 8 games against teams that would have finished with 60 or fewer under the old system (assuming Washington can't get a win and a "tie" in their last 4 games; if they can, the Sabres will have played 4 such games). My guess is the current team could have had a few more wins if they got to play some of the patsies that the other squad got to play. The '74-'75 team played 14 games against teams that finished with over 100 points (9 if you figure that LA's 105 was inflated by playing 25 games against patsies), the current team will have played between 8 and 14 games vs. teams that would have had 100 points with the old system (depending on how Carolina, Dallas, and Calgary close out their seasons). It would be interesting if someone ran a regression on the 2 teams to do a purely cursory comparison to see how they would have fared in the other's era. (No, I am not volunteering!) My guess is that the '74-'75 team would come out ahead slightly but that it would be much closer that people expect it to be.
All Along The Watchtower Posted April 13, 2006 Report Posted April 13, 2006 That the '74-'75 team would have finished with more wins given the same tie breaking situation and their particular mix of teams and schedules is, as you state, easy to figure out. To compare the 2 teams regarding which is the more impressive accomplishment isn't that easy to figure out. The '74-'75 team played a much more balanced schedule against a much less balanced league than the current team played. 3 of the 5 worst teams in the league this season are St. Louis, Chicago, and Columbus and the Sabres played no games against any of them. The '74-'75 team played 5 games against one of the 3 worst teams (and quite possibly the WORST team) of the modern era. There is no current team that even comes close to rivaling the '75 Caps. There were teams in the AHL and IHL that could very easily have taken a playoff series from that team. That '74-'75 Sabres team got to play 24 games against teams with 60 or fewer points. The current team will have gotten to play 8 games against teams that would have finished with 60 or fewer under the old system (assuming Washington can't get a win and a "tie" in their last 4 games; if they can, the Sabres will have played 4 such games). My guess is the current team could have had a few more wins if they got to play some of the patsies that the other squad got to play. The '74-'75 team played 14 games against teams that finished with over 100 points (9 if you figure that LA's 105 was inflated by playing 25 games against patsies), the current team will have played between 8 and 14 games vs. teams that would have had 100 points with the old system (depending on how Carolina, Dallas, and Calgary close out their seasons). It would be interesting if someone ran a regression on the 2 teams to do a purely cursory comparison to see how they would have fared in the other's era. (No, I am not volunteering!) My guess is that the '74-'75 team would come out ahead slightly but that it would be much closer that people expect it to be. Wow! Very impressive analogy!
mphs mike Posted April 14, 2006 Report Posted April 14, 2006 05-06 loses to 74-75 - NO French Connection or Ted Darling and no FOG!
JujuFish Posted April 14, 2006 Report Posted April 14, 2006 Ignore this. I forgot one very important fact. :P
Rock DJ Posted April 15, 2006 Report Posted April 15, 2006 So the 74-75 team is still far superior. In fact, let's try and project what that team's record would be under the current rules. Considering they had a 3-to-1 ratio of wins over losses, lets assume they won 10 of their 15 tie games in OT. That would have made them: 59 wins, 16 losses, 5 OT losses = 123 POINTS!!! PTR Not to mention having the moves and soft hands of Bert and Robert on the shootout, along with the shots of Martin and Gare to mix it up.
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