SwampD Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, skaught said: When is zadorovs hearing? That was a hockey play. Quit yer crying'. 1 Quote
CallawaySabres Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 This is perfect for locking in that 7th draft spot. Quote
skaught Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, SwampD said: That was a hockey play. Quit yer crying'. Lol, both were perfectly legal hockey plays. Quote
SwampD Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, skaught said: Lol, both were perfectly legal hockey plays. I thought so, too. But of the three plays being discussed, only the Sabre will lose games. And there will be many words used to tell me why this is the proper outcome. And as a Sabres fan, I will bend over and take it willingly. Quote
SDS Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 Does anyone know what the big bad Colorado Avalanche did when Eichel delivered this suspension-worthy blow to Soderberg’s head? 2 Quote
Stoner Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Weave said: I think so. He had a phone call earlier in the year IIRC. I'll remain consistent on this. It's contact with he head primarily. It should be suspendable. Yep. Lots of overthinking here. Don't hit people in the head. 53 minutes ago, skaught said: When is zadorovs hearing? For roughing? His stick was also up, so the penalty could have been a double minor. Zadorov didn't target Eichel's head or make it the principal point of contact. I remain amazed we can never agree on the facts of these situations. Quote
SwampD Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Yep. Lots of overthinking here. Don't hit people in the head. For roughing? His stick was also up, so the penalty could have been a double minor. Zadorov didn't target Eichel's head or make it the principal point of contact. I remain amazed we can never agree on the facts of these situations. Are you really arguing that Zadarov didn't target Jack's head? Dude, C'mon. The bolded is very true. Quote
nfreeman Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 It’s been a while since we really had a good blame session regarding those dastardly refs. They always seem to pick on us and make our teams lousy. They even make it look like the crappiness is overwhelmingly due to mismanagement! Effing refs. It’s always them. Quote
SDS Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, SwampD said: Are you really arguing that Zadarov didn't target Jack's head? Dude, C'mon. The bolded is very true. If you call a face wash with his left arm targeting the head… His right shoulder went into his chest. Quote
SwampD Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, nfreeman said: It’s been a while since we really had a good Blane session regarding those dastardly refs. They always seem to pick on us and make our teams lousy. They even make it look like the crappiness is overwhelmingly due to mismanagement! Effing refs. It’s always them. Strawman alert! Not a single person said that the refs were the reason we were lousy,… or even lost that game. Quote
SwampD Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, SDS said: If you call a face wash with his left arm targeting the head… His right shoulder went into his chest. Watch at :50 sec in to the video on the page one of this thread and tell me that the head wasn't the target. Quote
Stoner Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, SwampD said: Watch at :50 sec in to the video on the page one of this thread and tell me that the head wasn't the target. "Targeting the head" might be old NHL language. My bad. "Principal point of contact" is the new language. Quote
SDS Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, SwampD said: Watch at :50 sec in to the video on the page one of this thread and tell me that the head wasn't the target. I have watched it a dozen times. I think he hits Jack in the chest and then when he slips and starts to fall he continues to push his forearm under his chin and up and over his face and knocked off his helmet. Quote
SwampD Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, SDS said: I have watched it a dozen times. I think he hits Jack in the chest and then when he slips and starts to fall he continues to push his forearm under his chin and up and over his face and knocked off his helmet. I think Z's left hand hits him square in the face almost before any other part of him touches Jack. Quote
SDS Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, SwampD said: I think Z's left hand hits him square in the face almost before any other part of him touches Jack. I guess it depends how you define principle point of contact. If my arms are in and not extended and I hit your chest and shoulders and I have a hand on your face at the same time what does that mean? I don’t think his head experienced any additional force than did the rest of his body - beside the forearm that went up and over his face. The force certainly wasn’t concentrated on his head. Quote
SwampD Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, SDS said: I guess it depends how you define principle point of contact. If my arms are in and not extended and I hit your chest and shoulders and I have a hand on your face at the same time what does that mean? I don’t think his head experienced any additional force than did the rest of his body - beside the forearm that went up and over his face. The force certainly wasn’t concentrated on his head. Again, I didn't really have a problem with it, but as freeman has so astutely pointed out, I have a problem with of all the questionable hits, only the Sabre will sit. It's a real thing, Free. Sorry, but that Chara hit just really pissed me off. Edited March 11, 2019 by SwampD Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, Kruppstahl said: LOL. Do you actually watch Sabres games or just talk about them at chat forums? LOL Actually, you ***** I have a lot going on in my life and it is widely known that I do not watch the games. I am lucky if I have time to watch the highlights. I did not see the hit at the time of my post and still haven't. So, I asked what happened. I was told nicely by @Brawndo, but thanks for another ***** contribution to the discussion. Edited March 11, 2019 by New Scotland (NS) 2 Quote
nfreeman Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 9 hours ago, SwampD said: Again, I didn't really have a problem with it, but as freeman has so astutely pointed out, I have a problem with of all the questionable hits, only the Sabre will sit. It's a real thing, Free. Sorry, but that Chara hit just really pissed me off. What's "a real thing?" That "the refs" in multiple sports treat Buffalo's teams differently than they treat other teams? Really? Quote
Doohicksie Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 30 minutes ago, nfreeman said: Really? Well yeah. Because Buffalo. Quote
Tondas Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 Jack can't be too pleased in losing approximately a quarter million dollars for a 1 second lapse in judgement. Quote
MattPie Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 If this were the other way around, we'd be gathering up pitchforks to lay waste if there wasn't a suspension. No issue here, Jack has to be smarter; either hit clean or hit dirty in such a way that it escapes notice. Quote
SwampD Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 40 minutes ago, nfreeman said: What's "a real thing?" That "the refs" in multiple sports treat Buffalo's teams differently than they treat other teams? Really? 10 minutes ago, Doohickie said: Well yeah. Because Buffalo. Not just Buffalo. Refs are biased. They just are. Sheesh, how quickly we forget. We had a large chunk of a thread devoted to talking about emails stating that not only did the NHL know that there were biased refs, but they were actively having them do games where they knew it would mess with the team. And for the record, I have no problem with Jack's suspension. It's the fact that Chara didn't even get a penalty that pisses me off. Quote
shrader Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 11 hours ago, SDS said: I have watched it a dozen times. I think he hits Jack in the chest and then when he slips and starts to fall he continues to push his forearm under his chin and up and over his face and knocked off his helmet. The stick has to catch him in the head at some point during all of that. At the very least, there's a high stick in there. You don't often see someone throwing a hit with their stick nearly vertical. Quote
Claude Balls Posted March 11, 2019 Report Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, shrader said: The stick has to catch him in the head at some point during all of that. At the very least, there's a high stick in there. You don't often see someone throwing a hit with their stick nearly vertical. Definitely catches him high with his stick and glove. Maybe not a suspension worthy hit, but deserved a penalty. But the worst part about this pic, looks like more Avs fans in the crowd. Edited March 11, 2019 by Claude Balls Quote
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