Stoner Posted March 6, 2019 Report Posted March 6, 2019 An admirable list, but I wonder what franchise's fans would vote to trade their team's current state of affairs with that of the Sabres. Quote
MakeSabresGrr8Again Posted March 6, 2019 Report Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, klos1963 said: Likely not. But we would probably have a productive 2nd line. Which we sorely lack. Biggest issue overall with the team is our goaltending currently is no better than last season, possibly worse right now. And without Skinner just how good would the top line be? Of course, everything is subjective to the "what if". Quote
MakeSabresGrr8Again Posted March 6, 2019 Report Posted March 6, 2019 21 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: An admirable list, but I wonder what franchise's fans would vote to trade their team's current state of affairs with that of the Sabres. Ottawa? Quote
Drunkard Posted March 6, 2019 Report Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: I didn't say the trade was good. All I said is the despite not having ROR this team is a better team then last year. I don't think that is even debatable. We have more wins, more points, scored more goals and given up less then last year. Could this team be even better had we kept ROR? Possibly. The one thing I know for sure is that keeping Kane would have made acquiring Skinner highly unlikely. Sorry. Also had we kept Kane (who didn't want to be here) and ROR, we'd wouldn't have Skinner, and probably wouldn't have had Montour, Sheary and others. ROR and Kane would be an additional 14.5 mill in cap and we currently stand at 76 mill without Baloo (2.4) and Berglund (3+). You do the math. I hear ya. I wasn't trying to put all those justifications on you, either. It was more of a compilation of various arguments different posters have made over the time since the trade. We probably still could have gotten Skinner without moving O'Reilly but we most likely would have needed to move Kane at least. Skinner Eichel Mittelstadt Sheary O'Reilly Reinhart Smith Rodriguez Okposo Girgensons Larsson Pominville Theoretically I think that forward group would have fit under the cap for this season, plus we still could have picked up Montour using the San Jose pick for Kane. If not we could have bribed some team with something like a second round pick and a prospect to take on Pominville's last season under contract. Quote
PerreaultForever Posted March 6, 2019 Report Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Doohickie said: No. There is no but. If we trade Reinhart, we'll regret it for years to come. He is in that second tier, just behind the stars, doesn't have an ego, makes everyone better, and puts up near-star numbers. Losing him wouldn't be as bad as losing Drury, but it would be almost as bad as losing Briere. Can't agree with this one. No way is it like Drury or Briere. First off, in any trade it depends on what you bring back. Any one player for a different kind of player can be a good trade maybe even for both teams. Reinhart has come into his own as a player and I think what you see now is what you will get but there are still things about his game I don't like. Eichel needs a faster sniper or a bigger more physical guy on that wing (depending on your philosophy) and not an inbetweener which is what Reinhart is. If we can build a team that allows him to be a solid 2nd line guy he can fit, but if Reinhart is our top winger we will suck. I wouldn't trade Eichel or Dahlin. Anyone else is up for grabs and it depends on what comes back. Quote
Stoner Posted March 6, 2019 Report Posted March 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, MakeSabresGrr8Again said: Ottawa? They're rebuilding. Here's a story that claims they have six "tier two" prospects (a level below the Dahlins, Matthewses and McDavid-types). Would you trade a rebuild that's just starting and has some very good pieces for a rebuild that hasn't gotten anywhere? Quote
irregularly irregular Posted March 7, 2019 Report Posted March 7, 2019 Better than last year and we've seen some flashes of what they could potentially become. That sums it up for this year. 1 Quote
Claude Balls Posted March 7, 2019 Report Posted March 7, 2019 46 minutes ago, oregelbundet oregelbunden said: Better than last year and we've seen some flashes of what they could potentially become. That sums it up for this year. We've also seen too many flashes of the same garbage that we've seen for the past decade. Quote
Doohicksie Posted March 7, 2019 Report Posted March 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Pimlach said: McCabe - solid and steady but not a "warrior" by my definition. You don't think? Wow, I wonder what your definition of warrior is. 2 Quote
apuszczalowski Posted March 7, 2019 Report Posted March 7, 2019 6 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: You wouldn't have Skinner or Montour either. Skinner might be missed, but would ROR and Kane make up his goals? As for Montour, hes been here for what, 3 games so far? Quote
apuszczalowski Posted March 7, 2019 Report Posted March 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, Doohickie said: You don't think? Wow, I wonder what your definition of warrior is. I really want to post the 'peter pan' guy as a response to this, lol Quote
Pimlach Posted March 7, 2019 Report Posted March 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Doohickie said: You don't think? Wow, I wonder what your definition of warrior is. Hey the guy is tough, no doubt. He took that hit two years ago. Have not seen a warrior out there this season. Solid defenseman though. Quote
irregularly irregular Posted March 7, 2019 Report Posted March 7, 2019 9 hours ago, Claude Balls said: We've also seen too many flashes of the same garbage that we've seen for the past decade. Agreed. We've seen more than flashes. Overall, I doubt there is anyone that visits this board who is not disappointed with the results of this season. There are many unanswered questions at this point. The next 6 months will tell us if JBot has what it takes to be a long term, successful GM. 1 Quote
Doohicksie Posted March 7, 2019 Report Posted March 7, 2019 Biggest positive from this season is the Eddie Shack thread. 1 Quote
dudacek Posted March 7, 2019 Report Posted March 7, 2019 Rasmus Dahlin is going to be so ***** good. Quote
woods-racer Posted March 7, 2019 Report Posted March 7, 2019 I've gone to one to three games a year for the last 9 years. First time I have been at a game for a win was this year. A positive for me. Quote
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 7, 2019 Report Posted March 7, 2019 Have we learned that Housley is not a good coach? That would also be a positive. Quote
Carmel Corn Posted March 7, 2019 Report Posted March 7, 2019 Few things: 1. Acquisition of Skinner proving that Jack's game is elevated when he has a winger who can keep up with him (and can shoot). 2. Dahlin playing every game this year proving that he is not only talented, but durable. 3. Sam playing at a high level for a complete season (to date). Honorable mention - Angry Larry has had a good rebound year as a role player. Quote
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