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Posted
1 minute ago, PASabreFan said:

Can you imagine Billy B. leaving 24 seconds on the clock from his own 35?

The Browns have a 1st and 10 from their own 34 with 30 seconds left.  They're not kneeling.

Posted
2 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

Can you imagine Billy B. leaving 24 seconds on the clock from his own 35?

Especially when you're kicking off to start the secod half.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said:

Wow. Unreal we're a touchdown away from the lead.

This is the case for optimism. 

2 minutes ago, JujuFish said:

The Browns have a 1st and 10 from their own 34 with 30 seconds left.  They're not kneeling.

McDermott is who he is. 

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1 minute ago, TrueBlueGED said:

Fair. Maybe Hauschka's shaky stretch has made McDermott less confident in him. 

Yeah. 

I don't even think that snap hit Josh's fingers. I knew that one way or another, Morse's missed time was going to bite the team in the regular season at some point.

Posted
3 hours ago, Marchand'sNose said:

If my interpretation of the bolded is correct, you are stating that everyone else is probably cheating and lying about it too, and the act of calling out those who cheat and lie isn't important.

Regarding the first statement: simply no. If the Bills, for example, were cheating during the 21st century, then they did an incredibly terrible job of it I'd say. But the level of cheating that the Pats have done has been especially egregious in the advantages it has given them over opponents.

Regarding the second statement: I think it is very important to recognize, criticize, and shame bad behavior so that it does not become normalized and tacitly accepted. But I've clearly lost this debate in the eyes of the national sports media, as no one even mentions (or wants to mention) Spygate, Deflategate, etc... anymore. The bottom line is that it's okay to cheat and lie to get to the top because winning is the most important thing ever and no one gives a damn about the losers. If I may step on to my soapbox for a second: how very American. The 21st century Patriots are kind of a nice analogy for our modern capitalist system.

Whatever. At this point, I'm perfectly happy to end this particular discussion today so that we can all try and focus on enjoying the 1pm Bills game. I'll be back for Week 4, however.

It isn’t.  

You’re having a conversation with me that I’m not having with you or anyone else.  I’m not sure what you’re reading into my posts, but I haven’t said anything about the Pats and situational ethics, sportsmanship, conspiracies, economic systems, or the moral responsibility of good people and citizens.  Have at it, but you’re on your own, big fella’.

Posted
1 minute ago, inkman said:

Great. Our 8th overall pick made A play. 

I can keep my non-gloom-and-doom commentary/observations as plays happen in the game to a minimum if you'd like 

Early signs point to Gore being a mistake

and Edmunds is the man 

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