GASabresIUFAN Posted August 24, 2019 Report Posted August 24, 2019 14 hours ago, Taro T said: Their starters essentially tied Detroits and their scrubs are way better than Detroits scrubs are. Which means that our depth has improved while our starters aren’t there yet
nfreeman Posted August 24, 2019 Report Posted August 24, 2019 If anyone who watched the game would like to describe Allen’s play, I’d appreciate it. Thanks.
Ogre Posted August 24, 2019 Report Posted August 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, nfreeman said: If anyone who watched the game would like to describe Allen’s play, I’d appreciate it. Thanks. Hard to accurately describe it. He only had 6 pass attempts in the entire half. Nothing long. He would have had a pick if they hadn’t called roughing the passer. Very stupid move too. It was 2nd and 4 and he was flushed from the pocket. Instead of throwing it away he tried to throw across his body and it was easily picked. My issue was with McClappy. Far too many run plays. Then they brought Allen back out at the start of the 3rd to.....hand it off. Even my wife was scratching her head.
Taro T Posted August 24, 2019 Report Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Which means that our depth has improved while our starters aren’t there yet Perhaps. The depth is definitely better. It was clear that the plan was to be run heavy last night as opposed to the pass heavy plan of the 1st 2 games that looked really good. Still expect this to be a 9-7 team but hard to say exactly where the starters are with the lack of planning on D and the very self evaluative plans the Bills O has run. 9 minutes ago, Ogre said: Hard to accurately describe it. He only had 6 pass attempts in the entire half. Nothing long. He would have had a pick if they hadn’t called roughing the passer. Very stupid move too. It was 2nd and 4 and he was flushed from the pocket. Instead of throwing it away he tried to throw across his body and it was easily picked. My issue was with McClappy. Far too many run plays. Then they brought Allen back out at the start of the 3rd to.....hand it off. Even my wife was scratching her head. Except Allen was done after Singletary 's TD run in the 2 minute offense. He didn't take a snap in the 3rd. Allen didn't look good UNTIL they went to the 2 minute O. He looked very good in that. It was like he was too antsy to get throwing at the beginning when he knew they'd only be throwing on 3rd down.
Randall Flagg Posted August 24, 2019 Report Posted August 24, 2019 Yeah, after obviously trying to get Allen into a lot of different passing looks in the first two weeks (running like 75% or more pass plays those games), they did the opposite this time - Allen was stuck doing run-run-pass basically every drive. He missed a timing route to Beasley on the outside, had a perfect dart to Cole down the middle later that Cole fumbled after catching, a timing route screw up with Zay that got on Zay a little too quick, but also hit him in the shoulder - his arms were still at his sides if I saw it correctly, he wasn't close to being ready, I'd put that incompletion on both of them - Zay really looks nothing like an NFL WR far too often IMO. Then the play Ogre describes, which was simply stupid, and he'd better not do in the regular season. Two nice passes to John Brown on the 95 yard 2-minute drill they scored on. That was his day, as the rest of the plays in the first half were runs. It's tough to even assign an adjective to such a small set of plays in between what was the point and bulk of the entire offense, plays that had nothing to do with Josh. I'd say he didn't look great, but it means less to me than when he did look great last week, which also doesn't mean much to me because it's preseason I mean Baker was straight trash yesterday (10/26, 72 yards, 0TD, 1 INT) and nobody is gonna say a word about it We'll see what the regular season brings. I lost my ***** when we drafted Allen, but then reeled it in a bit and was patient with him last year. Even then, I still find myself focusing way too much on breaking down the accuracy of each and every throw he makes. Because when I go turn on Brees or something, even he misses plenty of throws, and gets bailed out on bad placement by good receivers. This is of course not to say that Josh is in Brees' stratosphere, as very few NFL QBs will ever get there again. But I sometimes am too hard on Josh when he misses throws here and there - I'd wager that, this preseason, Josh's intermediate accuracy has been completely fine even though you can nitpick individual throws to death, the reality is that you can do that for any QB ever. I'm almost convinced that Josh's accuracy is less of a problem for the 2019 Bills than the lack of receivers that can do things other teams' receivers regularly do. This is separate from whether or not Josh's accuracy is good enough for him to develop into a QB worth keeping long term.
Ogre Posted August 24, 2019 Report Posted August 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Taro T said: Perhaps. The depth is definitely better. It was clear that the plan was to be run heavy last night as opposed to the pass heavy plan of the 1st 2 games that looked really good. Still expect this to be a 9-7 team but hard to say exactly where the starters are with the lack of planning on D and the very self evaluative plans the Bills O has run. Except Allen was done after Singletary 's TD run in the 2 minute offense. He didn't take a snap in the 3rd. Allen didn't look good UNTIL they went to the 2 minute O. He looked very good in that. It was like he was too antsy to get throwing at the beginning when he knew they'd only be throwing on 3rd down. Duhhh! I got in the hot tub at halftime and didn’t even see the third! I must be thinking of the two minute... I also ate an infused peppermint patty before dinner so there’s that as well?? 1
nfreeman Posted August 24, 2019 Report Posted August 24, 2019 Thanks boys and @Ogre I'm glad you enjoyed your evening!
TrueBlueGED Posted August 24, 2019 Report Posted August 24, 2019 2 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Which means that our depth has improved while our starters aren’t there yet It's the preseason. Nothing means anything. Except injuries if they linger into the regular season. Those mean something.
Randall Flagg Posted August 24, 2019 Report Posted August 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: It's the preseason. Nothing means anything. Except injuries if they linger into the regular season. Those mean something. I'd also argue that punts mean something And our punters suk
TrueBlueGED Posted August 24, 2019 Report Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, Randall Flagg said: I'd also argue that punts mean something And our punters suk Fair. Our kicking game in general is apparently subpar. I say apparently because I haven't watched a single snap.
Taro T Posted August 24, 2019 Report Posted August 24, 2019 The weirdest thing W/ last night's game (well beyond Gumbel & Green having done absolutely no prep) was the ref would change the arm he grabbed to signal holding calls depending on which team committed the hold. Rather than always grabbing either his right or left forearm, he grabbed the forearm closest to the side that committed the penalty. Not sure if anybody else does that, but it was the 1st time it was noticable.
Ogre Posted August 24, 2019 Report Posted August 24, 2019 57 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: I'd also argue that punts mean something And our punters suk 2
GoPre Posted August 25, 2019 Report Posted August 25, 2019 Andrew Luck is officially retiring from the NFL... wow...
Randall Flagg Posted August 25, 2019 Report Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) "We're gonna be so good in four years when Jack is 27 and Dahlin is 23" "2021 Roster plan" "5-year rebuild plan" Nobody knows the future folks, fix your teams now, win today Edited August 25, 2019 by Randall Flagg 3
Weave Posted August 25, 2019 Report Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Randall Flagg said: "We're gonna be so good in four years when Jack is 27 and Dahlin is 23" "2021 Roster plan" "5-year rebuild plan" Nobody knows the future folks, fix your teams now, win today *golf clap*
Brawndo Posted August 25, 2019 Report Posted August 25, 2019 Some Indianapolis Fans actually booed him as he left the field. Excluding the year that Manning was hurt and the year and half that Luck missed, the Colts Fans have had 19 years of high level QB play. Seriously screw them. 1
Taro T Posted August 25, 2019 Report Posted August 25, 2019 11 hours ago, Brawndo said: Some Indianapolis Fans actually booed him as he left the field. Excluding the year that Manning was hurt and the year and half that Luck missed, the Colts Fans have had 19 years of high level QB play. Seriously screw them. And now they have a good chance of landing Tua. (Hey, if it keeps him out of Miami ...)
Brawndo Posted August 25, 2019 Report Posted August 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Taro T said: And now they have a good chance of landing Tua. (Hey, if it keeps him out of Miami ...) Tua, Fromm or Herbert. They should be Ok.
TrueBlueGED Posted August 25, 2019 Report Posted August 25, 2019 I honestly don't even know if they'll draft that high. Brissett obviously isn't Luck, but he's a Fitz-level guy who can get them in the 7-win range.
Kruppstahl Posted August 25, 2019 Report Posted August 25, 2019 2 hours ago, TrueBlueGED said: I honestly don't even know if they'll draft that high. Brissett obviously isn't Luck, but he's a Fitz-level guy who can get them in the 7-win range. I doubt they will be drafting Top 3, unless they go out of their way to do it. Indy really has had an incredible run of QB talent for a long time!
Tondas Posted August 25, 2019 Report Posted August 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, Kruppstahl said: I doubt they will be drafting Top 3, unless they go out of their way to do it. Agree. They have a good team and a good coach. I see 8-8 or thereabout. If they want a franchise QB, they're going to have to do it like most teams: Cough up a 1, and a 2 at the very least.
Eleven Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 13 hours ago, Kruppstahl said: I doubt they will be drafting Top 3, unless they go out of their way to do it. Indy really has had an incredible run of QB talent for a long time! Well, they went out of their way to do it last time.
WildCard Posted August 28, 2019 Author Report Posted August 28, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 11:18 PM, Brawndo said: Some Indianapolis Fans actually booed him as he left the field. Excluding the year that Manning was hurt and the year and half that Luck missed, the Colts Fans have had 19 years of high level QB play. Seriously screw them. Honestly I don't blame them for being upset. They went from SB favorite with years of serious contention ahead of them to 8-8 overnight, that's a hard pill to swallow 2
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