Brawndo Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Gatorman0519 said: 4 plays added up to the loss: 1. Knox whiffing on the QB sweep. He makes that block and JA gets 15-20 yards. Game likely over. 2. 3 n 18 inexcusable to give that up. 3. Neal/Milano cancelled each other out allowing DW to escape. 4. The Ford blindside block. Dumb rule but dumb decision. Any of those 4 go our way and we might of won. All of them went Houston’s way and thus we lose. It doesn’t help that the referees messed up on two of those
Gatorman0519 Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Brawndo said: It doesn’t help that the referees messed up on two of those Of course not. My point was despite everything it took a cacophony of events to go against us that added up to a loss.
LawnWranglers Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 It is perhaps trite, but I am thankful there are others along for the ride. Unfortunately, tonight’s feeling is all too familiar. But, just like Charlie Brown, many of us will be right back in there in September. “Fight on, my men,” Sir Andrew [and Marv] said. 3
Gatorman0519 Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, LawnWranglers said: It is perhaps trite, but I am thankful there are others along for the ride. Unfortunately, tonight’s feeling is all too familiar. But, just like Charlie Brown, many of us will be right back in there in September. “Fight on, my men,” Sir Andrew [and Marv] said. Oh I’m totally used to it. This is nothing compared to the Super Bowl losses.
Brawndo Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Gatorman0519 said: Of course not. My point was despite everything it took a cacophony of events to go against us that added up to a loss. I know, I was providing supporting visual evidence 1
Gatorman0519 Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Brawndo said: I know, I was providing supporting visual evidence Maybe this will do for us what the Ronnie Harmon drop did against Cleveland 30 years ago lol. 1
Brawndo Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gatorman0519 said: Oh I’m totally used to it. This is nothing compared to the Super Bowl losses. Do you remember the Giants kicking the ball after the Umpire had set it down on the final drive in SB XXV? The clock continued to run while it was reset and they lost at least 10 secs off the clock. Or the famous just give it to them? Where the Pats WR not only was out of bounds but also three yards short of the markee and miraculously they gave them a first down and cost the Bills the game? In interest of full disclosure during the Greatest Comeback, Daryl Talley did hold Ernest Givens on the Odomes Interception with no call 10 minutes ago, Gatorman0519 said: Maybe this will do for us what the Ronnie Harmon drop did against Cleveland 30 years ago lol. We can only hope 1
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 Just think that these are some of the best refs the league has to offer.
Indabuff Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 Probable unpopular opinion but Allen sucked and he's not going to get any better. 1
tom webster Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 I’m sorry, first field goal drive he just misses John Brown at around 2. Second field goal drive he hits Williams right in hands for touch down. Third drive Watts sacks him, no one seemed open anyway. Then, I admit, inexplicable melt down briefly. BUT, he gets another chance and drives them right down to tie it. Then in overtime, he marches down field IF either Knox or Morse blocks linebacker. I still don’t get how you can be anything but encouraged by this performance. Sorry if anyone is offended but if you are sure he’s a bust you just are praying your initial feelings are proven true. Kind of reminds me of Jerry Glanville’s opinion of Favre. 2
Stoner Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, Brawndo said: It doesn’t help that the referees messed up on two of those I'm pretty surprised that someone of your linking pedigree would forward crummy takes like those. 2 minutes ago, WildCard said: Why do we watch sports Jesus Sports Jesus would be fun to watch.
TrueBlueGED Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, tom webster said: I’m sorry, first field goal drive he just misses John Brown at around 2. Second field goal drive he hits Williams right in hands for touch down. Third drive Watts sacks him, no one seemed open anyway. Then, I admit, inexplicable melt down briefly. BUT, he gets another chance and drives them right down to tie it. Then in overtime, he marches down field IF either Knox or Morse blocks linebacker. I still don’t get how you can be anything but encouraged by this performance. Sorry if anyone is offended but if you are sure he’s a bust you just are praying your initial feelings are proven true. Kind of reminds me of Jerry Glanville’s opinion of Favre. Nice to conveniently omit, on that very drive, he literally was a heads-up OL arm bat away from tossing the game away. I'm not sure he's a bust, but all of the pre-draft qualities people were rightly concerned about were fully on display. Some players grow out of their bad qualities, others don't (I'm lookin' at you, Jameis Winston). He has 100% improved and shown enough to earn another season, but to come away from this game shocked and appalled that people would question whether he's the guy is freaking hilarious. The first drive was perfect, and over the next 10, we scored 3 FGs. But yes, it's totally unbelievable that people might be concerned about the QB. Edited January 5, 2020 by TrueBlueGED 1
Ogre Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Sports Jesus would be fun to watch.
Indabuff Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 This ***** team should have won and they blew it. This was their best opportunity in years. My wife is by no means an NFL analyst but for her to ask "what the hell is he doing?" regarding JA speaks volumes. The dude blew it as far as I'm concerned and I don't think he's the answer to their quarterback woes.
WildCard Posted January 5, 2020 Author Report Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) Definitely gonna give Allen 3 years, watch him blow it, fire McDermott and Beane, and restart 17 years of more misery. Can't wait But hey, at least we have the Sabres. Edited January 5, 2020 by WildCard
... Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 Looked like an upstart team that didn't respect the moment as much as the other team. They also looked like a team that, if I'm talking upgrades, there are several critical positions that need an upgrade before the QB.
tom webster Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Nice to conveniently omit, on that very drive, he literally was a heads-up OL arm bat away from tossing the game away. I'm not sure he's a bust, but all of the pre-draft qualities people were rightly concerned about were fully on display. Some players grow out of their bad qualities, others don't (I'm lookin' at you, Jameis Winston). He has 100% improved and shown enough to earn another season, but to come away from this game shocked and appalled that people would question whether he's the guy is freaking hilarious. The first drive was perfect, and over the next 10, we scored 3 FGs. But yes, it's totally unbelievable that people might be concerned about the QB. Completely and utterly amazing.
TrueBlueGED Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, WildCard said: Definitely gonna give Allen 3 years, watch him blow it, fire McDermott and Beane, and restart 17 years of more misery. Can't wait But hey, at least we have the Sabres. I'm as pessimistic as anyone at the moment, but I think the only way McBeane gets the axe is if Allen clearly doesn't improve and they stick with him a couple years too long. I used to think they wouldn't get a 2nd QB given what they gave up to get Allen, but 2 playoffs in 3 years is likely enough to buy them another kick at the can if they have to take it.
WildCard Posted January 5, 2020 Author Report Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, TrueBlueGED said: I'm as pessimistic as anyone at the moment, but I think the only way McBeane gets the axe is if Allen clearly doesn't improve and they stick with him a couple years too long. I used to think they wouldn't get a 2nd QB given what they gave up to get Allen, but 2 playoffs in 3 years is likely enough to buy them another kick at the can if they have to take it. Yeah my point really was is this won't work out because Allen won't, and we'll start the whole process of GM-HC-QB all over again in a few years. As is tradition
TrueBlueGED Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, tom webster said: Completely and utterly amazing. The Bills offense was 22nd in DVOA this season. The offense scored more than 2 TDs three times this season in 17 games, including today's 1 TD performance. The QB today had 1 TD on a trick play, 5.7 YPA, 41.6 QBR, and a complete meltdown against the *squints* the 26th ranked defense by DVOA. And it's "completely and utterly amazing" that there are concerns? It's absolutely not all on him, but your take here is comically obtuse. Edited January 5, 2020 by TrueBlueGED 1
tom webster Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: The Bills offense was 22nd in DVOA this season. The offense scored more than 2 TDs three times this season in 17 games, including today's 1 TD performance. The QB today had 1 TD on a trick play, 5.7 YPA, 41.6 QBR, and a complete meltdown against the *squints* the 26th ranked defense by DVOA. And it's "completely and utterly amazing" that there are concerns? It's absolutely not all on him, but your take here is comically obtuse. The offense had 9 new starters. The QB’s improvement through the year was obvious. As I stated previously, there was in TD dropped today and another one missed by inches and the play in overtime might have gone for a TD if Knox blocks the linebacker and Morse escorts him downfield. There was a ton more to be optimistic about then not. And for the record my original post was aimed at people who stated he definitely was a bust and my take was that “that” was ridiculous.
Eleven Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 I'm not sure what Allen will or won't be, but I am sure of two things: (1) The team doesn't make the playoffs with some Darnold or Rosen or maybe even Mayfield or some other Joe; (2) He'll be better when John Brown isn't his number one receiver. Everyone else can rejoin the *****-fest. See you on Thursday.
Gatorman0519 Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) Next year is a much tougher schedule. Going to have have major improvements on offense just to make the playoffs. ultimately we are who we thought we were: an upstart young team who was decently coached riding a soft schedule. In order for us to become contenders JA has to go to the next level. Plenty of cap to add talent otherwise. Edited January 5, 2020 by Gatorman0519
TrueBlueGED Posted January 5, 2020 Report Posted January 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, tom webster said: The offense had 9 new starters. The QB’s improvement through the year was obvious. As I stated previously, there was in TD dropped today and another one missed by inches and the play in overtime might have gone for a TD if Knox blocks the linebacker and Morse escorts him downfield. There was a ton more to be optimistic about then not. And for the record my original post was aimed at people who stated he definitely was a bust and my take was that “that” was ridiculous. Fair and fair. Meanwhile, Mike Vrabel punting from the NE 37 because he doesn't want to win.
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