spndnchz Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Brawndo said: Some real under-cover info there Pierre. ??♀️ 1 1
PerreaultForever Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 I'm just hoping it's the 8 year thing that is the only reason it hasn't been done yet.
nfreeman Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 I’ll say it: concern is creeping in. 1
Stoner Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 6 hours ago, nfreeman said: I’ll say it: concern is creeping in. Someone's going to have to explain to me why he and his agent would want to leave millions on the table to sign early with Buffalo.
PromoTheRobot Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Someone's going to have to explain to me why he and his agent would want to leave millions on the table to sign early with Buffalo. Especially when the team is starting to revert to form....back into pumpkins.
sweetlou Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Someone's going to have to explain to me why he and his agent would want to leave millions on the table to sign early with Buffalo. His contract will be around $8 million no matter where he goes. He can get the eighth year by only staying with Buffalo. He would lose money in the long run if he only signs a seven year contract elsewhere as an UFA.
grinreaper Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Someone's going to have to explain to me why he and his agent would want to leave millions on the table to sign early with Buffalo. Who knows if they would be leaving millions on the table? Other teams may view him as a product of Eichel's skill. Skinner may like playing first line minutes with Eichel.
sweetlou Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 So even if another team is willing to give him 9 million over 7 years(doubtful), that is 63 million contract. If Buffalo offers him 8-8.5 million a year but over 8 years his contract is between 64-68 million. This is why he will sign with Buffalo!!
sweetlou Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 Someone answer this for me, in order to get the 8 years does he have to sign before July 1st. If he waits to become a free agent and still signs with Buffalo is the max only 7 years since he became a UFA?
Sabel79 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, sweetlou said: Someone answer this for me, in order to get the 8 years does he have to sign before July 1st. If he waits to become a free agent and still signs with Buffalo is the max only 7 years since he became a UFA? No, he can sign whenever. If it goes after July 1 Buffalo is the only team that can offer him 8.
freester Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 7 hours ago, nfreeman said: I’ll say it: concern is creeping in. Yes I think we are looking at the following scenarios either: 1. He signs 8 year 78 million which is way too much or 2. Leaves as UFA I don't see a scenario where he gets traded at deadline for significant compensation due to his NMC
rakish Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, freester said: Yes I think we are looking at the following scenarios either: 1. He signs 8 year 78 million which is way too much or 2. Leaves as UFA I don't see a scenario where he gets traded at deadline for significant compensation due to his NMC I thought Skinner waived his NMC, thereby losing that clause.
... Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 I think it's just as important to Skinner to be someplace where he feels comfortable and welcome as much as he wants a chance to win and collect points. I think the odds of him staying here are greater than it looks from the outside. 1
LGR4GM Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Sabel79 said: No, he can sign whenever. If it goes after July 1 Buffalo is the only team that can offer him 8. I think there is something in the CBA about the trade deadline and the 8 years. You have to be on the new team before the deadline or something along those lines.
dudacek Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 Skinner will sign. Just like Reinhart will be fine.
Sabel79 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: I think there is something in the CBA about the trade deadline and the 8 years. You have to be on the new team before the deadline or something along those lines. This is correct. I should have been more precise with my language and said: So long as he remains in Buffalo past the trade deadline, Buffalo can offer an 8-year deal. if it goes to 7/1, Skinner is a UFA, but Buffalo can still offer and 8-year deal, while everyone else can only go to 7.
LGR4GM Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, dudacek said: Skinner will sign. Just like Reinhart will be fine. Reinhart IS fine.
Doohicksie Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 2 hours ago, PASabreFan said: Someone's going to have to explain to me why he and his agent would want to leave millions on the table to sign early with Buffalo. Because ultimately, his agent works for Skinner, and if Skinner expresses an preference for working a deal in Buffalo, that's what he will do.
Stoner Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, ... said: I think it's just as important to Skinner to be someplace where he feels comfortable and welcome as much as he wants a chance to win and collect points. I think the odds of him staying here are greater than it looks from the outside. Why is this necessarily Buffalo? It's kind of a figment of people's imagination. I bet he would feel very comfortable/welcome anywhere they pay him. 35 minutes ago, Doohickie said: Because ultimately, his agent works for Skinner, and if Skinner expresses an preference for working a deal in Buffalo, that's what he will do. Again, a lot of wishful thinking here.
Sabres Fan in NS Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Why is this necessarily Buffalo? It's kind of a figment of people's imagination. I bet he would feel very comfortable/welcome anywhere they pay him. Again, a lot of wishful thinking here. Skinner, or any player, will be comfortable with the $ anywhere they sign and would be welcomed, which does not translate directly to said player's comfort level with the team and city. I disagree with you on the wishful thinking part. That is, indeed, how it works, as Doo (let me know if you don't like Doo, OK Doo?) pointed out.
dudacek Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 If Skinner is not interested in Buffalo he’s done a great job faking His recent comments basically acknowledged his career year is a product of his environment and every thing I’ve seen and heard from him radiates that he’s having fun playing here.
SABRES 0311 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 Skinner will get paid no matter who he signs with. To paraphrase Herb Brooks, it’s not the best player, it’s the right player. Skinner is the right player for where this team is at and where they are going. He could have gone to any team that wanted him but he chose Buffalo. He chose Buffalo I would guess because he is thinking about his future not only financially but competitively as well. With no proof I believe a commitment was made to stay. The terms will be decided based on his production at the deadline or end of season. If I had to guess Skinner signs on the trade deadline and if necessary we move pieces to facilitate. But maybe we won’t have to move anyone. I didn’t do the math.
LGR4GM Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said: Skinner will get paid no matter who he signs with. To paraphrase Herb Brooks, it’s not the best player, it’s the right player. Skinner is the right player for where this team is at and where they are going. He could have gone to any team that wanted him but he chose Buffalo. He chose Buffalo I would guess because he is thinking about his future not only financially but competitively as well. With no proof I believe a commitment was made to stay. The terms will be decided based on his production at the deadline or end of season. If I had to guess Skinner signs on the trade deadline and if necessary we move pieces to facilitate. But maybe we won’t have to move anyone. I didn’t do the math. Why would we have to move pieces at the trade deadline if Skinner signs?
SABRES 0311 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Posted February 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Why would we have to move pieces at the trade deadline if Skinner signs? The sentences immediately after pretty much say I could be wrong on that.
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