josie Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: I'm glad they're all moving on from the situation. I am curious to know what actually happened here. I keep waiting for a Player's Tribune style confessional Quote
Doohicksie Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sabel79 said: Fairly certain the player has to sign off on this prior to hitting waivers. Shrugs all around. Why would a player have to sign off on a team waiving him? Quote
Scottysabres Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 Well, we have some cap space breathing room. Now, about that 2C situation....... Quote
Brawndo Posted December 19, 2018 Author Report Posted December 19, 2018 I wonder if the interest in Berglund reported last night did not include his contract, and after being told this he agreed to terminate to allow him to go where he wants and bet on himself to sign another deal this offseason? 3 Quote
Sabel79 Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Doohickie said: Why would a player have to sign off on a team waiving him? He has to agree to terminate the contract. Don't think there's a scenario where the team can unilaterally terminate a contract without league intervention, and that's a process. Quote
Brawndo Posted December 19, 2018 Author Report Posted December 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Doohickie said: Why would a player have to sign off on a team waiving him? Contract Termination would need the players approval. Unless they are gearing for a fight with the NHLPA. Quote
repster Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 I wonder if no one picks him up on waivers, and there is no trade that makes sense, would they bury him with Matt Moulson on the Ontario Reign? I guess they would have to want him...however we can get rid of his cap hit, get it done. Quote
darksabre Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Brawndo said: I wonder if the interest in Berglund reported last night did not include his contract, and after being told this he agreed to terminate to allow him to go where he wants and bet on himself to sign another deal this offseason? That would be my guess. Just now, repster said: I wonder if no one picks him up on waivers, and there is no trade that makes sense, would they bury him with Matt Moulson on the Ontario Reign? I guess they would have to want him...however we can get rid of his cap hit, get it done. This isn't a waiver to re-assign to Rochester. If he clears he's gone forever. Quote
LGR4GM Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 24 minutes ago, Wyldnwoody44 said: That escalated quickly 2 minutes ago, repster said: I wonder if no one picks him up on waivers, and there is no trade that makes sense, would they bury him with Matt Moulson on the Ontario Reign? I guess they would have to want him...however we can get rid of his cap hit, get it done. They aren't waiving him to put him in the AHL. They are waiving him to terminate his contract. Quote
Mustache of God Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 Sounds like Berglund lost his love of the game. Is everything ROR touches tainted? 2 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 Where does Berglund now fit on the Kozlov, Gilmour, and Leino continuum? 3 Quote
repster Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, darksabre said: That would be my guess. This isn't a waiver to re-assign to Rochester. If he clears he's gone forever. Fantastic Quote
dudacek Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Good news there. Surprised this is proceeding so quickly and so smoothly. Must be some oddness going on behind the scenes. Still another shoe to drop? Edited December 19, 2018 by dudacek Quote
LGR4GM Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mustache of God said: Sounds like Berglund lost his love of the game. Is everything ROR touches tainted? Explains why Jack wouldn't high five him last year. 3 1 Quote
Mustache of God Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Where does Berglund now fit on the Kozlov, Gilmour, and Leino continuum? What happned with Kozlov and Gilmour? Quote
WildCard Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 Spittin Chiclets was saying they've heard Berglund's agent failed to submit the list of teams for his NTC, and Buffalo was supposed to be on that list Quote
darksabre Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 Just now, dudacek said: Good news there. Surprised this is proceeding so quickly and so smoothly. Must be some oddness going on behind the scenes. Still another shoe to drop. Clearly Berglund wanted out at all costs. Very weird. Quote
WildCard Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, darksabre said: Clearly Berglund wanted out at all costs. Very weird. Going to be very interesting to see if he gets a better contract from someone else Quote
freester Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 If we could only figure out a a way to get rid of Okposos contract our cap would be in great shape. Quote
LGR4GM Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 This is like Christmas. We got a present in the form of 3.875mil in cap space. 1 Quote
jsb Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 Happy to be in Buffalo or not, that's a lot of money to be letting go of. Quote
erickompositör72 Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 21 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: I’m going to have to disagree. The agent or Berglund are to blame. They had an obligation under the contract and they failed. Why is that the GM’s fault? The GM also did him a favor by giving him to a team that actually needed his services. He had the opportunity to win the 2nd line center job on a young up and coming team. That seems like a golden opportunity. Berglund failed. 16 minutes ago, Mustache of God said: In my opinion, the GM was doing what was best for his team. Hockey is a business and that side can be ugly. If anyone is a piece of doodie it's clearly Bergland's agent for dropping the ball on submitting his no-trade list. Anyways, good riddance. When the ROR trade happened, his contract had me worried because of the length. Problem solved. This opens a spot for a kid to make an impression. Compare this to how JBott handled Moulson. He figured out a place where he had family and sent him there, probably after discussing. Berglund situation seems there was no discussion, no consideration of the human element. Yes, the agent would have the most blame in this scenario, but the STL GM then would have only considered getting his prize (ROR) rather than treating a player humanely. If his agent single-handedly dropped the ball, Berglund would have been helpless in this situation. Rather than the GM being humane ("hey, you really don't care about the nmc anymore?"), he just acted in an opportunistic manner -- nevermind the ramifications on an actual human being. Quote
Mustache of God Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 There is no chance that anyone is going to give him that money & term at his age considering his recent production. I understand why he would have had Buffalo on his No Trade list in the off-season, but this team is playoff bound this year and has, from what i've heard, great ownership. What a selfish player. Good riddance. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted December 19, 2018 Report Posted December 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Andrew Amerk said: Wow. If I’m his agent and failed to get the NTC clause properly activated, I’d be hiring a pretty lawyer about now. There has to be more to this story. We may never know, but was there a problem at home? You don’t just walk away from 12.5 million. My understanding also after looking at Montreal’s termination of Pleky’s contract, that this had to be mutual at this point. The Sabres probably had the right to terminate but it would have dragged on much much longer. Quote
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