Stoner Posted December 15, 2018 Report Posted December 15, 2018 Too many assumptions being made. But why wait for the facts? 3
TrueBlueGED Posted December 15, 2018 Report Posted December 15, 2018 2 hours ago, ... said: Agreed. I can't see how Berglund being suspended is indicative of a "culture" problem within the group. An individual problem, totally, but a culture problem, no. Of course, I'm willing to read brief explanations on how this could be a group-wide culture problem. Allow me to clarify my snark. It's not a shot at the culture of the group, it's a shot at the very notion we have any damn idea what a locker room is like, who is good/bad in it, and how that does/doesn't affect anything on the ice. By every single account Berglund was a great guy to have around. Barring mental health circumstances, the inferences about his character and value in the room were 100% wrong. In short, we shouldn't pretend we know what we don't.
Popular Post Brawndo Posted December 15, 2018 Popular Post Report Posted December 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Too many assumptions being made. But why wait for the facts? Are you new here? 1 10 1
Kruppstahl Posted December 15, 2018 Report Posted December 15, 2018 Well, we have to assume now that he was never ill. Which means there is a good story about all this. Wish I knew what it was.
Doohicksie Posted December 15, 2018 Report Posted December 15, 2018 34 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Too many assumptions being made. But why wait for the facts? Why should we? This is more fun.
Doohicksie Posted December 15, 2018 Report Posted December 15, 2018 33 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Barring mental health circumstances, the inferences about his character and value in the room were 100% wrong. You don't know that. He might have felt that a shot with the Sabres was a shot to reinvigorate his career. When it didn't work out like he hoped, he decided to go home. There may not even be any animosity in his decision. Just a career move. If you leave company A in another country to move to company B in your home country, does that mean you have a character flaw? 1
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 15, 2018 Report Posted December 15, 2018 33 minutes ago, Kruppstahl said: The hair! How old is he? That look is so 1985.
Doohicksie Posted December 15, 2018 Report Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, New Scotland (NS) said: How old is he? That look is so 1985. Oddly appropriate: 1 5
woods-racer Posted December 15, 2018 Report Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, New Scotland (NS) said: How old is he? That look is so 1985. He comes from a land where that look never goes out of style. He is Barry Melrose's neighbor. 3
TrueBlueGED Posted December 15, 2018 Report Posted December 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, Doohickie said: You don't know that. He might have felt that a shot with the Sabres was a shot to reinvigorate his career. When it didn't work out like he hoped, he decided to go home. There may not even be any animosity in his decision. Just a career move. If you leave company A in another country to move to company B in your home country, does that mean you have a character flaw? There are professional ways to do this, not just stop showing up with zero communication. He chose not to do so. And he's not some 18 year old rookie, he's a seasoned pro who knows better. 1
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 15, 2018 Report Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, woods-racer said: He comes from a land where that look never goes out of style. He is Barry Melrose's neighbor. Would that be Burgland? I know, I know ... 'don't give up your day job'. 1 2
inkman Posted December 15, 2018 Report Posted December 15, 2018 57 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Too many assumptions being made. But why wait for the facts? Well until we get more info...
nfreeman Posted December 15, 2018 Report Posted December 15, 2018 58 minutes ago, Kruppstahl said: The hair! well done sir. 1 hour ago, PASabreFan said: Too many assumptions being made. But why wait for the facts? I don't think anyone is opposed to adjusting a theory as new facts come in. Certainly the facts we have are not negligible and not favorable to Bergy. 1 hour ago, Taro T said: Probably correct. But have to believe he put some serious thought into this tantrum. Not really expecting him back. Interesting. The point about this being a fully deliberated act is debatable at least. But the bolded -- I hadn't gotten that far but since you mentioned it, I think it's probably more than 50/50 that you're right.
stinky finger Posted December 15, 2018 Report Posted December 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Kruppstahl said: The hair! Hand bags and glad rags
GASabresIUFAN Posted December 15, 2018 Report Posted December 15, 2018 Am I wrong for feeling this isn’t the worst thing to happen for both Berglund and the Sabres? He can go home, the Sabres get out from under a terrible contract and free cap and a roster spot to add a better forward at the deadline. 4
IKnowPhysics Posted December 15, 2018 Report Posted December 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, Brawndo said: The plot thickens. I sincerely hope he's okay. 2
irregularly irregular Posted December 15, 2018 Report Posted December 15, 2018 He would not have been suspended if there was anything even remotely indicating a medical issue. Either mental or physical. 5
Cheektorado Posted December 15, 2018 Report Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, oregelbundet oregelbunden said: He would not have been suspended if there was anything even remotely indicating a medical issue. Either mental or physical. That's the way I see it too. I'm surprised there hasn't been a comment from Berglund or his agent about all this. I'm starting to believe the "he wants to go home" crowd on this.
Wyldnwoody44 Posted December 15, 2018 Report Posted December 15, 2018 3 hours ago, Kruppstahl said: The hair! Dad?!?!? 3
7+6=13 Posted December 15, 2018 Report Posted December 15, 2018 4 hours ago, erickompositör72 said: For the purpose of conversation, what should a player do in his situation, assuming usage is his issue? Obviously step 1 is to work your ass off every night to show everyone you're professional/a good teammate. Would step 2 be quietly letting management know you feel you might not fit into their plans and would prefer to be moved? I think those would have been the best two options. Disappointing for a 30 year old below average player. 1
Pimlach Posted December 15, 2018 Report Posted December 15, 2018 According to Phil on pregame interview. “He was ill, then it developed into something different” He is suspended, and JBots “will handle it”.
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