LGR4GM Posted December 17, 2018 Report Posted December 17, 2018 I hold a bias towards centers and defenders but Ratanen is awesome. That said if I were building a team, I want either a center or an elite defender to start. Again, that's my bias. 2 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: That’s exactly my point. Dahlin. Maybe Ratanen. I love this guys game and he helped make MacKinnon a star. Clearly this is a very short list and Marner isn’t on it. Quote
WildCard Posted December 17, 2018 Author Report Posted December 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Didn’t we discuss some published list that had Marner rated higher then Jack? Seriously, how many guys in the NHL not named McDavid would you want to build around over Jack? I showed above Jack’s favorable comparison to MacKinnon. I love Barkov, but he isn’t as dynamic offensively as Jack. Matthews? Marner? Who? The other thing is, Eichel is cheaper than McDavid and Matthews will be. That's a pretty nice benefit for a comparable player 2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: I hold a bias towards centers and defenders but Ratanen is awesome. That said if I were building a team, I want either a center or an elite defender to start. Again, that's my bias. I don't think it's a bias if it's objectively correct Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 17, 2018 Report Posted December 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Marions Piazza said: love all the hot takes about Eichel even after yesterdays game. some random quotes i saw last night; "Eichel is on a hot streak right now, but there are still 15 other guys I would take over him" "Eichel is only good because he has Skinner" "he's a showboat a__hole every time he scores" (from a Bruins fan who probably thinks Marchand isn't a d-bag) "he still isn't in the same world as McDavid and Matthews" Where did you see this trash? Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted December 17, 2018 Report Posted December 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, WildCard said: The other thing is, Eichel is cheaper than McDavid and Matthews will be. That's a pretty nice benefit for a comparable player I don't think it's a bias if it's objectively correct Although I love Pastrnak, Ratanen and both Tkachuks. Quote
LGR4GM Posted December 17, 2018 Report Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Although I love Pastrnak, Ratanen and both Tkachuks. This draft is deep in wingers... we could get a Pastrnak or a Ratanen. That 2015 draft was insane. Eichel, McDavid, Ratanen, Marner, Aho, Chabot, Barzal, Werenski, Hanifin, Connor, Boeser, Provorov, Konecny, Meier. What a draft. Edited December 17, 2018 by LGR4GM Quote
Marions Piazza Posted December 17, 2018 Report Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, New Scotland (NS) said: Where did you see this trash? Twitter; Sabres-Bruins game log. Entertaining to say the least Edited December 17, 2018 by Marions Piazza fat finger typo Quote
sabills Posted December 17, 2018 Report Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) Not going to say this too loud in case the hockey gods are listening, and I'm not even saying I think it would happen, but could you IMAGINE if the Sabres knocked the leafs in the first round this year, especially if Eichel scored the last game winner? Lake Erie would become the worlds largest salt lake. Edited December 17, 2018 by sabills Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 17, 2018 Report Posted December 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Marions Piazza said: Twitter; Sabres-Bruins game log. Entertaining to say the least I hate Twitter. I did try it (just because of the Eichel Tower stuff), but it's not for me. And in answer to the OP ... So far, so good, eh? Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted December 17, 2018 Report Posted December 17, 2018 30 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: This draft is deep in wingers... we could get a Pastrnak or a Ratanen. That 2015 draft was insane. Eichel, McDavid, Ratanen, Marner, Aho, Chabot, Barzal, Werenski, Hanifin, Connor, Boeser, Provorov, Konecny, Meier. What a draft. Shades of 2003. Quote
sabills Posted December 17, 2018 Report Posted December 17, 2018 46 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: This draft is deep in wingers... we could get a Pastrnak or a Ratanen. That 2015 draft was insane. Eichel, McDavid, Ratanen, Marner, Aho, Chabot, Barzal, Werenski, Hanifin, Connor, Boeser, Provorov, Konecny, Meier. What a draft. Wow, what a year. Thats insane. Quote
Weave Posted December 17, 2018 Report Posted December 17, 2018 To be fair, it wasn’t until about November that we all started thinking Eichel is working his way towards Matthews level. Prior to that, he was a second tier player. Kudos to Jack for making the change in his game. 2 Quote
Brawndo Posted December 17, 2018 Report Posted December 17, 2018 He’s the NHL 3rd Star for the week 1 Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 17, 2018 Report Posted December 17, 2018 43 minutes ago, Brawndo said: He’s the NHL 3rd Star for the week What the heck did the #1 and #2 do? Quote
LGR4GM Posted December 17, 2018 Report Posted December 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, New Scotland (NS) said: What the heck did the #1 and #2 do? #1 had back to back hat tricks #2 had 11points in 4 games. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted December 17, 2018 Report Posted December 17, 2018 By the way here are the top 7 in scoring in the NHL with their ages 1. Rantanen (22) - 56 pts 2. MacKinnon (23) - 52 pts 3. McJesus (21) - 49 pts 4. Kutcherov (25) - 48 pts 5. Scheiffele (25) - 46 pts 6. Johnny Hockey (25) - 45 pts 7. Eichel (22) - 45 pts By the way Jack is now at 1.32 pts per game as compared to MacKinnon’s 22 year old season last year at 1.31 pts per game and Jack isn’t playing with Mikko Rantanen on the wing. Quote
Thorner Posted December 18, 2018 Report Posted December 18, 2018 10 hours ago, Marions Piazza said: love all the hot takes about Eichel even after yesterdays game. some random quotes i saw last night; "Eichel is on a hot streak right now, but there are still 15 other guys I would take over him" "Eichel is only good because he has Skinner" "he's a showboat a__hole every time he scores" (from a Bruins fan who probably thinks Marchand isn't a d-bag) "he still isn't in the same world as McDavid and Matthews" This one was so bogus, full of names above Jack like Marner, Scheifele, and Stamkos. It sounded like it was from someone not seeing a lot of recent Sabres games. 8 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: That’s exactly my point. Dahlin. Maybe Ratanen. I love this guys game and he helped make MacKinnon a star. Clearly this is a very short list and Marner isn’t on it. I'd imagine if Jack was playing on a line with MacKinnon that he'd have more points than Rantanen. Quote
Tondas Posted December 18, 2018 Report Posted December 18, 2018 Jack is developing very Messier-esque. For the young folks, that's a real compliment. Quote
French Collection Posted December 18, 2018 Report Posted December 18, 2018 41 minutes ago, Tondas said: Jack is developing very Messier-esque. For the young folks, that's a real compliment. Skill wise and in stature, I see the similarities. If he can add a death stare and a nasty edge to his game, he'll be scary.....great. Quote
WildCard Posted December 18, 2018 Author Report Posted December 18, 2018 6 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: By the way here are the top 7 in scoring in the NHL with their ages 1. Rantanen (22) - 56 pts 2. MacKinnon (23) - 52 pts 3. McJesus (21) - 49 pts 4. Kutcherov (25) - 48 pts 5. Scheiffele (25) - 46 pts 6. Johnny Hockey (25) - 45 pts 7. Eichel (22) - 45 pts By the way Jack is now at 1.32 pts per game as compared to MacKinnon’s 22 year old season last year at 1.31 pts per game and Jack isn’t playing with Mikko Rantanen on the wing. Something something a players prime something something Quote
Taro T Posted December 18, 2018 Report Posted December 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Tondas said: Jack is developing very Messier-esque. For the young folks, that's a real compliment. To a degree. But he'll never have the elbows. ;) Quote
French Collection Posted December 18, 2018 Report Posted December 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, Taro T said: To a degree. But he'll never have the elbows. ;) Link to head shot on Modano. This one was a shoulder, vicious and suspension worthy in today's game. I can't believe the first responders dropping the stretcher while taking Modano away. This happens near the end of the video. Quote
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