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They sure as hell better run Ottawa out of Buffalo on Saturday! They were piss poor in the 1st and 2nd and in the 3rd suddenly decided to impose their will on Ottawa and dominated. Do that for a full 3 periods next time!

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  On 11/2/2018 at 2:01 AM, WildCard said:

What, you think Jack showed up there?

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I don't even know what this means, really. By "showed up" do you guys mean "score'? Cause then, ya, he didn't show up, nor did the other 17 skaters. 

But he showed up twice today on the scoresheet already, other players besides Jack, Skinner and Pommers can contribute, too. 

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  On 11/2/2018 at 2:01 AM, thewookie1 said:

They sure as hell better run Ottawa out of Buffalo on Saturday! They were piss poor in the 1st and 2nd and in the 3rd suddenly decided to impose their will on Ottawa and dominated. Do that for a full 3 periods next time!

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No excuses Saturday I want a blow out too 

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  On 11/2/2018 at 2:04 AM, Thorny said:

I don't even know what this means, really. By "showed up" do you guys mean "score'? Cause then, ya, he didn't show up, nor did the other 17 skaters. 

But he showed up twice today on the scoresheet already, other players besides Jack, Skinner and Pommers can contribute, too. 

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He was bad at the end

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  On 11/2/2018 at 2:04 AM, WildCard said:

1 primary, 1 secondary. And he's young, and the captain. McDavid is skating some 27m/night, I'm done with excuses for Jack

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So what. He actually had the primary pass on that secondary assist, anyways.

McDavid gets like 2 secondary assists a game.

  On 11/2/2018 at 2:05 AM, WildCard said:

He was bad at the end

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Didn't really think that, and in any event, he had been good the rest of the game. Again, other players can score too. 

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  On 11/2/2018 at 2:05 AM, Thorny said:

So what. He actually had the primary pass on that secondary assist, anyways.

McDavid gets like 2 secondary assists a game.

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He made a pass to the point on the pp. Woohoo!

At least McDavid tries the entire game

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  On 11/2/2018 at 2:06 AM, WildCard said:

He made a pass to the point on the pp. Woohoo!

At least McDavid tries the entire game

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It's funny that people think this. 

I watch McDavid play all the time and he takes his share of shifts off, like any player. Or is rendered so ineffective it looks as such. Either way. 

If you don't think Jack was trying at the end, I don't know what to tell you. If anything he was getting gassed. 

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  On 11/2/2018 at 2:08 AM, Thorny said:

It's funny that people think this. 

I watch McDavid play all the time and he takes his share of shifts off, like any player. Or is rendered so ineffective it looks as such. Either way. 

If you don't think Jack was trying at the end, I don't know what to tell you. If anything he was getting gassed. 

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We've been hearing the same excuses for 3 years now...

  On 11/2/2018 at 2:05 AM, Thorny said:

Didn't really think that, and in any event, he had been good the rest of the game. Again, other players can score too. 

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True, they can.

Well, maybe they can't

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  On 11/2/2018 at 2:13 AM, Thorny said:

No excuses needed, that's my point.

Saying he had 2 assists and looked dangerous all night isn't an excuse, it's a reason.

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He consistently made bone headed passes and did the same ol' not moving his feet and reaching with his stick

He's always going to be a guy that piles up numbers. I want him to be more than that. I want him to be an actual Captain

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  On 11/2/2018 at 2:11 AM, WildCard said:

We've been hearing the same excuses for 3 years now...

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Eichel is on pace for 88 points. That would have put him 11th in the league last season behind noted slackers Stamkos, Marchand, Tavares, Gaudreau, Kuznetsov, Panarin....

You've got the shiv out for the wrong guy.

  On 11/2/2018 at 2:14 AM, WildCard said:

He consistently made bone headed passes and did the same ol' not moving his feet and reaching with his stick

He's always going to be a guy that piles up numbers. I want him to be more than that. I want him to be an actual Captain

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Your use of empty cliche is approaching McDermott-level.

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  On 11/2/2018 at 2:16 AM, TrueBlueGED said:

Eichel is on pace for 88 points. That would have put him 11th in the league last season behind noted slackers Stamkos, Marchand, Tavares, Gaudreau, Kuznetsov, Panarin....

You've got the shiv out for the wrong guy.

Your use of empty cliche is approaching McDermott-level.

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Two Captains

I know you don't believe in momentum or any of that, but former athletes aren't just using them as shields for bad play excuses. You follow the play and attitude of your leader

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  On 11/2/2018 at 2:14 AM, WildCard said:

He consistently made bone headed passes and did the same ol' not moving his feet and reaching with his stick

He's always going to be a guy that piles up numbers. I want him to be more than that. I want him to be an actual Captain

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I'm honestly more interested in numbers piling up than I am some vague Captain premise getting close to sounding like the dreaded "intangibles".

Unless the stats of other players are slumping because they are disheartened by the effort they are seeing from their captain, I'm shiving my blame over to someone else. 

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Eichel is not the problem.

Depth lines 2, 3 and 4 offensive contributions are. So is their ability to show up and play 60 minutes.

Players to trade:

Risto, Reinhart and Girgensons or Larsson.

Sorry, but this team still needs building blocks.

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  On 11/2/2018 at 2:20 AM, Thorny said:

I'm honestly more interested in numbers piling up than I am some vague Captain premise getting close to sounding like the dreaded "intangibles".

Unless the stats of other players are slumping because they are disheartened by the effort they are seeing from their captain, I'm shiving my blame over to someone else. 

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People play sports, not robots

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What's really sad is that they have it in them, that 3rd was dominant (sure maybe some Alamo by Ottawa) but if they play 45 minutes like that, they win, plain and simple. The talent is mainly there on this team, it needs some maturing, but it's there. I need to see them show up every night for most of the game. W's and L's are decided by effort

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Anything that starts breaching the territory of "clutch" gets tiresome. That the goals Eichel helped produce today just didn't come at the "right" time. 

If Pete Carroll gives the ball to Lynch at the goal line, and Tom Brady's Super Bowl performance in that game is altered not a single iota, he's probably not recognized as the near-indisputable GOAT of QBs right now as he only ties Montana for titles. So much is based on circumstance.

Likewise, if Kyle Okposo wires that shot home and scores again in OT, Jack is lauded for a gritty effort that produced two points and captained the team to a comeback victory. 

 

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