LTS Posted September 9 Report Posted September 9 1 hour ago, Weave said: No idea where to put this. I suppose I could have started a thread about the insanity of the MAGA cult. Yesterday I had an interesting and disturbing MAGA experience at a very small, local brewery in my small, mostly rural community. Went there for lunch a little before game time. 4 people at the bar, I am guessing mid to late 60s in age. 2 men, 2 women. They were wearing Bills stuff so assume they were there to watch the game. They were the only other people in the place. We sat down 2 empty barstools away from them, I was closest to the men. 1st commercial break had a Harris campaign ad. During the commercial the Guy closest to me yells "someone should shoot her". Then yells even louder " Someone needs to just shoot her". He sounded like he was having a tantrum. Like it was emotionally painful to even see her on television. my blood went from chill to irrationally angry in a heartbeat. I immediately stood, faced him and hoped to make eye contact. I am not even sure what I would have said, but in that moment I was looking for an excuse to have a confrontation. I haven't got that angry in a very long time. My wife asked " what did he just say?" And loud enough for him to hear me I said "the ***** wants someone to shoot Harris". He never looked our way the rest of the time we were there. Violence is coming. ***** jackholes are going to make sure of it. This will be the price we pay for the game Trump is playing. The orange sociopath doesn’t care that more people are going to get hurt, or worse. Yeah. This is what concerns me most. It's a group who primarily have a strong love of their guns, listening to rhetoric on Making America Great Again while not realizing that the constitution that was what "Made America Great" is completely neutered by the principles being advocated for by those leading MAGA. Essentially drones who want to resort to violence under the auspices of their "forefathers" while unwittingly supporting a movement that will strip them of their freedoms. But, the less educated masses have always been the fodder of those who seek power and authority. I do fear that if Harris wins that someone(s) will take egregious action leading us down a road that justifies the next level of erosion of our personal freedoms and places the every day citizen at risk.
LGR4GM Posted September 9 Author Report Posted September 9 4 hours ago, Weave said: No idea where to put this. I suppose I could have started a thread about the insanity of the MAGA cult. Yesterday I had an interesting and disturbing MAGA experience at a very small, local brewery in my small, mostly rural community. Went there for lunch a little before game time. 4 people at the bar, I am guessing mid to late 60s in age. 2 men, 2 women. They were wearing Bills stuff so assume they were there to watch the game. They were the only other people in the place. We sat down 2 empty barstools away from them, I was closest to the men. 1st commercial break had a Harris campaign ad. During the commercial the Guy closest to me yells "someone should shoot her". Then yells even louder " Someone needs to just shoot her". He sounded like he was having a tantrum. Like it was emotionally painful to even see her on television. my blood went from chill to irrationally angry in a heartbeat. I immediately stood, faced him and hoped to make eye contact. I am not even sure what I would have said, but in that moment I was looking for an excuse to have a confrontation. I haven't got that angry in a very long time. My wife asked " what did he just say?" And loud enough for him to hear me I said "the ***** wants someone to shoot Harris". He never looked our way the rest of the time we were there. Violence is coming. ***** jackholes are going to make sure of it. This will be the price we pay for the game Trump is playing. The orange sociopath doesn’t care that more people are going to get hurt, or worse. I know a guy just like that. Convinced that the world is out to get them unless they vote for the Orange Messiah. Trump is a man so amoral that he once put out a newspaper story trying to get 5 black kids executed for a crime they didn't commit and who isn't allowed to run a charity in NY because his family stole from children with cancer. A dude that has multiple kids with at least 3 different wives, all of which he has cheated on. Worst part is I haven't said anything untrue or conjecture, those are straight up facts. And yet, he's primed these downtrodden and left out ppl to believe if he doesn't win this election it was "stolen" from them. He's made them believe they are a "silent majority" when anyone with half a brain could tell you the Republican party has been bleeding voters for at least 30 years now. I don't look forward to November, I see no one through that doesn't have at least one flash point and that is sad.
SABRES 0311 Posted September 15 Report Posted September 15 https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/09/15/politics/donald-trump-safe-shots
LTS Posted September 16 Report Posted September 16 17 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/09/15/politics/donald-trump-safe-shots Yeah.. crazy. Then it doesn't help when Elon Musk weighs in.. resulting in what presumably was a Secret Service response to his tweet. Had to use a screen shot since it was obviously deleted.
SwampD Posted September 16 Report Posted September 16 8 hours ago, LTS said: Yeah.. crazy. Then it doesn't help when Elon Musk weighs in.. resulting in what presumably was a Secret Service response to his tweet. Had to use a screen shot since it was obviously deleted. I think everyone should take lots of screen shots in the coming months. The last election, I remember thinking that there was a lot of really weird ***** going on and websites that I can no longer find. I truly believe that we were under attack last election, by who, I can't say. But I plan on taking screenshots of anything that just feels off. I really think everyone should. 1
SwampD Posted September 17 Report Posted September 17 On 9/9/2024 at 9:29 AM, Weave said: No idea where to put this. I suppose I could have started a thread about the insanity of the MAGA cult. Yesterday I had an interesting and disturbing MAGA experience at a very small, local brewery in my small, mostly rural community. Went there for lunch a little before game time. 4 people at the bar, I am guessing mid to late 60s in age. 2 men, 2 women. They were wearing Bills stuff so assume they were there to watch the game. They were the only other people in the place. We sat down 2 empty barstools away from them, I was closest to the men. 1st commercial break had a Harris campaign ad. During the commercial the Guy closest to me yells "someone should shoot her". Then yells even louder " Someone needs to just shoot her". He sounded like he was having a tantrum. Like it was emotionally painful to even see her on television. my blood went from chill to irrationally angry in a heartbeat. I immediately stood, faced him and hoped to make eye contact. I am not even sure what I would have said, but in that moment I was looking for an excuse to have a confrontation. I haven't got that angry in a very long time. My wife asked " what did he just say?" And loud enough for him to hear me I said "the ***** wants someone to shoot Harris". He never looked our way the rest of the time we were there. Violence is coming. ***** jackholes are going to make sure of it. This will be the price we pay for the game Trump is playing. The orange sociopath doesn’t care that more people are going to get hurt, or worse. A week ago, when you wrote this, I didn't believe this. Today, I believe it.
Weave Posted September 17 Report Posted September 17 12 minutes ago, SwampD said: A week ago, when you wrote this, I didn't believe this. Today, I believe it. The irony that there has been two attempts on Trump’s life while we worry about right wing violence is not lost on me. My concern remains that the post election violence will be more general in nature, and it has not subsided. Yet another sign that we are returning to a time of robber barons. 1
Weave Posted September 17 Report Posted September 17 Holy *****! And now this. https://apple.news/AsTYZm8c0QwW8p8t4IEVo-w An Ohio sheriff instructed residents to keep a list of homes displaying campaign signs in support of the Democratic presidential nominee, Kamala Harris, and her running mate, Tim Walz, in remarks on social media that caused alarm. Bruce D Zuchowski, the Republican sheriff of Portage county, posted the remarks on Friday to his personal and professional Facebook pages, warning that undocumented immigrants would arrive if Harris were elected over his party’s nominee, Donald Trump. “When people ask me … What’s gonna happen if the Flip – Flopping, Laughing Hyena Wins??” Zuchowski wrote, referring to Harris. “I say … write down all the addresses of the people who had her signs in their yards!”
LTS Posted September 17 Report Posted September 17 I can't be surprised by this. Given the level of angst people get to over trivial disagreements on message boards it only stands to reason that the level of response ramps up dramatically when you brainwash people into thinking their very way of life will be threatened given certain outcomes. It's scary what a decline in teaching critical thinking (or perhaps its the decline in ability to critically think) being coupled with the limitless supply of information (both factual and not) from the Internet has done. I can only hope that we figure it out before its too late. But it certainly feels like the escalation is continuing and I don't just mean with our Presidential election either. It seems easier than ever to incite the mobs, unfortunately today they are armed with instruments more dangerous and destructive than pitchforks.
LGR4GM Posted October 28 Author Report Posted October 28 He's planning on ignoring the election results and getting the house to overturn the election.
K-9 Posted October 29 Report Posted October 29 3 hours ago, LGR4GM said: He's planning on ignoring the election results and getting the house to overturn the election. I doubt Johnson will have the votes in the House.
Weave Posted October 29 Report Posted October 29 13 hours ago, K-9 said: I doubt Johnson will have the votes in the House. Not gonna lie, I do have some anxiety over what may be planned for November-January.
K-9 Posted October 29 Report Posted October 29 24 minutes ago, Weave said: Not gonna lie, I do have some anxiety over what may be planned for November-January. You’re not alone. But since he’s not running as the sitting president this time, he won’t have the same mechanisms available to him this time around on the federal level and in states where certain legislators have attempted to enact changes in their certification laws, those have been challenged and defeated in the courts, like Georgia for example. When he loses, I fully expect another 60+ challenges in the courts and I expect he won’t win any of those just like last time. And there won’t be any rallies on the Ellipse and marches to the Capitol or an attack on it like last time. I’m amazed at how little some people know about the vote counting process and yet we have these radical right wing media crazies continue to spew lies about it and shout “voter fraud!” at every turn. The simple truth is, as several REPUBLICANS in charge of voting in their districts have said, voter fraud is extremely hard to do and extremely EASY to spot. It simply doesn’t exist on any scale large enough to impact outcomes. Why? Because it’s extremely hard to do and extremely easy to spot. Election officials and election workers just aren't the incompetent partisan hacks that right wing conspiracists think they are.
LTS Posted October 29 Report Posted October 29 We are in a scary situation. Trump is out spewing BS, left and right, making it all up as he goes. It's how he keeps his following. Sheep are sheep for a reason. That said, given the increase in Presidential immunity, perhaps Joe Biden can break a few laws to confirm Harris as the next President. Either way it's gross corruption of what this country was founded on. Then again, the country itself has already become a gross corruption of what this country was founded on. Scary... to say the least. I'm not ashamed to say that I have prepped family go-bags. 1
K-9 Posted October 29 Report Posted October 29 26 minutes ago, LTS said: We are in a scary situation. Trump is out spewing BS, left and right, making it all up as he goes. It's how he keeps his following. Sheep are sheep for a reason. That said, given the increase in Presidential immunity, perhaps Joe Biden can break a few laws to confirm Harris as the next President. Either way it's gross corruption of what this country was founded on. Then again, the country itself has already become a gross corruption of what this country was founded on. Scary... to say the least. I'm not ashamed to say that I have prepped family go-bags. The founders, brilliant as they were, simply could not conceive of today’s society and the technology that persuades it. Nor could they conceive of the blatant partisanship and graft that resides in several seats on our highest court their and their puppet masters who persuade them. Now the right wingers never like it when I say this, but the seeds for this corruption were planted in the 80s when conservatives saw fit to repeal the Fairness Doctrine which paved the way for media ownership laws to be radically changed. Now I can go on for days about why these laws were put in place and why they should be reinstated, especially the Fairness Doctrine, but suffice to say Nazi Germany or Fascist Italy wouldn’t have been able to succeed without the total control of the radio waves they used on a 24/7 basis, to broadcast their propaganda to the masses. Over and over and over again. Once people are in these bubbles, it’s nearly impossible to get out.
LTS Posted October 29 Report Posted October 29 2 hours ago, K-9 said: The founders, brilliant as they were, simply could not conceive of today’s society and the technology that persuades it. Nor could they conceive of the blatant partisanship and graft that resides in several seats on our highest court their and their puppet masters who persuade them. Now the right wingers never like it when I say this, but the seeds for this corruption were planted in the 80s when conservatives saw fit to repeal the Fairness Doctrine which paved the way for media ownership laws to be radically changed. Now I can go on for days about why these laws were put in place and why they should be reinstated, especially the Fairness Doctrine, but suffice to say Nazi Germany or Fascist Italy wouldn’t have been able to succeed without the total control of the radio waves they used on a 24/7 basis, to broadcast their propaganda to the masses. Over and over and over again. Once people are in these bubbles, it’s nearly impossible to get out. There are aspects of this world that they could not conceive but history is ripe with levels of corruption, coercion, and control. They may take different forms and be harder to track down, but underneath it, they are largely similar. Would that I forge the royal seal to send a false doctrine? 🙂 That said, I look more at the platform that claims the democrats are going to ruin our freedom and yet they are just as guilty, if not moreso, of wanting to do the same. Distill it down to "freedom of speech" something that Donald Trump does not uphold. At the very core, it's rotten. Your points on media, etc. are all spot on and I wouldn't argue them for a moment. I was just referring to things more readily apparent. How can anyone think that Trump wants to Make America Great when he really want to Make America Russian. And yet.. the Trump contingent love him because he'll bring back the good days of America.. apparently going back to the days when we welcomed fascist, socialist, communist governments with open arms... whenever that was. It boggles the mind. But then fiction is fiction for a reason.
K-9 Posted October 29 Report Posted October 29 42 minutes ago, LTS said: There are aspects of this world that they could not conceive but history is ripe with levels of corruption, coercion, and control. They may take different forms and be harder to track down, but underneath it, they are largely similar. Would that I forge the royal seal to send a false doctrine? 🙂 That said, I look more at the platform that claims the democrats are going to ruin our freedom and yet they are just as guilty, if not moreso, of wanting to do the same. Distill it down to "freedom of speech" something that Donald Trump does not uphold. At the very core, it's rotten. Your points on media, etc. are all spot on and I wouldn't argue them for a moment. I was just referring to things more readily apparent. How can anyone think that Trump wants to Make America Great when he really want to Make America Russian. And yet.. the Trump contingent love him because he'll bring back the good days of America.. apparently going back to the days when we welcomed fascist, socialist, communist governments with open arms... whenever that was. It boggles the mind. But then fiction is fiction for a reason. Good point about corruption having always existed, but conditions created in our lifetime along with bad rulings by judges have helped pave the way for the rampant corruption we have now. While the Trump adoration is mind boggling, it doesn’t surprise me in the least. As I alluded to previously, laws passed by conservatives laid the foundation for it. It was predictable.
SwampD Posted October 31 Report Posted October 31 This is how I feel about this election and it makes me sad. And with that, I’m out until the insurrection. 1
SwampD Posted November 1 Report Posted November 1 9 hours ago, Idemo Buffalo said: I am not a huge Trump fan but he is going to win. America rewards the people in the White House when things are good and punishes them when things are bad. If the Democratic Party really was interested in beating Trump they would not have inserted a candidate that would have had zero shot of ever getting the nomination. Now they are going to pay for it. All they had to do was have a primary and elect a candidate that wasn't part of the current administration. This election is over. Won't even be close. Things are good.
Weave Posted November 1 Report Posted November 1 8 minutes ago, SwampD said: Things are good. And thats the stupid part prart right there. It’s been an objectively good 4 yrs economically. Especially relative to the rest of the industrialized world. But that is a message the right doesn’t want you to see. 1
SwampD Posted November 1 Report Posted November 1 2 minutes ago, Idemo Buffalo said: You live in make believe world. US has not see inflation like this since 1970's. Things are very difficult for the bottom 2/3rds of the society. Not surprising. The Democrats used to be the party of unions, not they are the party of universities and the military industrial complex. Just wait til those tariffs kick in. Then you’ll truly see how bad it is for the bottom 2/3rds.
SwampD Posted November 1 Report Posted November 1 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Idemo Buffalo said: No tariffs are kicking in. That is about as ludicrous as Kamala Harris saying she will close the border. Either way, the country will be fine. The hate speech is unacceptable, though. Edited November 1 by SwampD
Weave Posted November 1 Report Posted November 1 2 hours ago, Idemo Buffalo said: You live in make believe world. US has not see inflation like this since 1970's. Things are very difficult for the bottom 2/3rds of the society. Not surprising. The Democrats used to be the party of unions, now they are the party of universities, big pharma, insurance companies and the military industrial complex. Obama, Biden, and Harris are just a bunch of corporate puppets, just like Pelosi. Context. Inflation since covid is a worldwide issue, spurred on by every country printing money like crazy to prevent an economic meltdown. Its not unique to the US, and it’s a byproduct of the very important decision to keep the economy from crashing. In fact, inflation in the US is lower than most of the rest of the industrialized world. The US is fairing much better in that regard than Europe, Japan, China for example. The current administration’s economic policy has prevented the inflation that the rest of the world is seeing. 2 hours ago, Idemo Buffalo said: You live in make believe world. US has not see inflation like this since 1970's. Things are very difficult for the bottom 2/3rds of the society. Not surprising. The Democrats used to be the party of unions, now they are the party of universities, big pharma, insurance companies and the military industrial complex. Obama, Biden, and Harris are just a bunch of corporate puppets, just like Pelosi. Context. Inflation since covid is a worldwide issue, spurred on by every country printing money like crazy to prevent an economic meltdown. Its not unique to the US, and it’s a byproduct of the very important decision to keep the economy from crashing. In fact, inflation in the US is lower than most of the rest of the industrialized world. The US is fairing much better in that regard than Europe, Japan, China for example. The current administration’s economic policy has prevented the inflation that the rest of the world is seeing. 3
SwampD Posted November 1 Report Posted November 1 6 minutes ago, Weave said: Context. Inflation since covid is a worldwide issue, spurred on by every country printing money like crazy to prevent an economic meltdown. Its not unique to the US, and it’s a byproduct of the very important decision to keep the economy from crashing. In fact, inflation in the US is lower than most of the rest of the industrialized world. The US is fairing much better in that regard than Europe, Japan, China for example. The current administration’s economic policy has prevented the inflation that the rest of the world is seeing. Plus, inflation isn't even that bad. Prices are what they are because people are able to pay them and doing so. Doesn't matter though, as long as the Immigrants are poisoning the blood of this country. SMH 25 minutes ago, Idemo Buffalo said: Agreed, the country will be fine no matter who wins, unless of course the people controlling Harris start WW3. Any candidate endorsed by Dick Cheney and John Brennan has a 50-50 shot of starting WW3. Can't really disagree with this. Believe me, being aligned with Dick Cheney gives me an "uh, oh" feeling, but it is more of an indictment on how bad Trump is, more than what it says about Harris. Now I'm really out. See you guys for the insurrection.
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