LGR4GM Posted September 23, 2019 Author Report Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) On 9/22/2019 at 2:06 PM, SABRES 0311 said: Did I ever say the situation didn’t look bad? No. Trumps administration is actually making it look almost obvious. Only reason I inserted myself into this is because you used a garbage article. You yourself admitted their verbiage was not good. Let me be clear. If Trump is found guilty of crimes warranting impeachment I will support it. It has to be proven with real information not comments appealing to emotions. It was not garbage. Verbiage was meh but it was not garbage. Why don't you focus on the issue at hand. There was a complaint. The WH is trying to bury the complaint even though it was found to be credible enough by the IG. That's the issue. 18 hours ago, drnkirishone said: Won't happen. Enough evidence will never appear to get Republicans to support impeachment. The reason enough evidence will never appear is simple. No amount of evidence would ever get them to support impeachment Exactly because the are complicit in Trump's utter disregard for law. Edited September 23, 2019 by LGR4GM
LGR4GM Posted September 23, 2019 Author Report Posted September 23, 2019 Quote It emerged last week that the Trump administration was blocking the whistleblower complaint from being handed over to Congress, despite the intelligence inspector general judging it to be "urgent". Under US law, if a complaint is considered to be of "urgent concern", and if the inspector general considers the complaint to be "credible", then the department head is expected to share the information with Congress within seven days. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49793408 Odd, if it is nothing why are you breaking the law to keep it away from Congress?
drnkirishone Posted September 23, 2019 Report Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49793408 Odd, if it is nothing why are you breaking the law to keep it away from Congress? I have that answer. Fake news, deep state, Clinton's, and hell let's throw in some elvis conspiracies Edited September 23, 2019 by drnkirishone
LGR4GM Posted September 24, 2019 Author Report Posted September 24, 2019 17 hours ago, drnkirishone said: I have that answer. Fake news, deep state, Clinton's, and hell let's throw in some elvis conspiracies Can't tell if this is serious or not.
drnkirishone Posted September 24, 2019 Report Posted September 24, 2019 Serious only in the regard that we will seriously hear them as excuses from people connected to the orange man
josie Posted September 24, 2019 Report Posted September 24, 2019 36 minutes ago, drnkirishone said: Serious only in the regard that we will seriously hear them as excuses from people connected to the orange man poor Gritty.
SwampD Posted September 24, 2019 Report Posted September 24, 2019 Looks like I'm getting some overtime.
LGR4GM Posted September 24, 2019 Author Report Posted September 24, 2019 2 hours ago, SwampD said: Looks like I'm getting some overtime. Not sure what you do but I guess we'll get to the bottom of this at some point. Probably not tomorrow though. I'd doubt the transcript we get isn't edited to hell.
Weave Posted September 24, 2019 Report Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, SwampD said: Looks like I'm getting some overtime. Now that right there is irony. Part of the economy definitely doing well under a Trump Presidency is the media/news he loathes so much. Edited September 24, 2019 by Weave 1
SwampD Posted September 24, 2019 Report Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Not sure what you do but I guess we'll get to the bottom of this at some point. Probably not tomorrow though. I'd doubt the transcript we get isn't edited to hell. The Republican response may have been one of the lamest partisan responses I have ever heard. That guy just sounded like a complete dolt. Edited September 24, 2019 by SwampD
SABRES 0311 Posted September 25, 2019 Report Posted September 25, 2019 If the transcript is written in sharpie it will get me through the rest of the day.?
LGR4GM Posted September 25, 2019 Author Report Posted September 25, 2019 11 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said: If the transcript is written in sharpie it will get me through the rest of the day.? Please please let this be true. I also am hoping for rampant spelling errors. 12 hours ago, SwampD said: The Republican response may have been one of the lamest partisan responses I have ever heard. That guy just sounded like a complete dolt. Which guy? Gotta be specific. I will say Polosi sounded as lame as ever when she talked about starting an inquiry.
Eleven Posted September 25, 2019 Report Posted September 25, 2019 On 9/21/2019 at 5:13 PM, SABRES 0311 said: Probably. The other problem I have with this situation is the whistleblower may be incorrect. On 9/21/2019 at 11:48 PM, SABRES 0311 said: I know for a fact it happens. You're right. People make mistakes all the time, and people lie all the time. But this appears to be credible and serious enough to warrant an investigation into whether the whistleblower is correct, so on with it.
LGR4GM Posted September 25, 2019 Author Report Posted September 25, 2019 https://www.apnews.com/ab907542d70345e5adcd64b05a288806 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-ukraine-unredacted-call-transcript-read-ukraine-president-released-by-white-house-today-2019-09-25-live-updates/ 2nd link contains the full memo Unclassified09.2019.pdf
SABRES 0311 Posted September 26, 2019 Report Posted September 26, 2019 I wonder what was meant by “she is going to go through some things”. Referencing Ivanovich. 1
TrueBlueGED Posted September 26, 2019 Report Posted September 26, 2019 If the system of checks and balances enshrined in the Constitution functioned as intended by the founders, Trump (and Barr, and maybe a few others) would be on the fast track to impeachment and removal from office. The full whistleblower report is bad. It's the smoking gun of direct activity by Trump that Mueller was never able to uncover during the Russia investigation. As is, they probably all survive at least until January 2021. 1
LGR4GM Posted September 26, 2019 Author Report Posted September 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: If the system of checks and balances enshrined in the Constitution functioned as intended by the founders, Trump (and Barr, and maybe a few others) would be on the fast track to impeachment and removal from office. The full whistleblower report is bad. It's the smoking gun of direct activity by Trump that Mueller was never able to uncover during the Russia investigation. As is, they probably all survive at least until January 2021. I just read it. Holy *****. Unclassified09.2019 (1).pdf
Weave Posted September 26, 2019 Report Posted September 26, 2019 2 hours ago, TrueBlueGED said: If the system of checks and balances enshrined in the Constitution functioned as intended by the founders, Trump (and Barr, and maybe a few others) would be on the fast track to impeachment and removal from office. The full whistleblower report is bad. It's the smoking gun of direct activity by Trump that Mueller was never able to uncover during the Russia investigation. As is, they probably all survive at least until January 2021. I think it is painfully evident by the Republican efforts to stock judges, stonewall Democrat judge nominations, flat out refuse to debate legislation produced outside of the leadership group, and power grab at all levels of government, that we are no longer operating with a working system of checks and balances. The great experiment appears to be over.
LGR4GM Posted September 26, 2019 Author Report Posted September 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Weave said: I think it is painfully evident by the Republican efforts to stock judges, stonewall Democrat judge nominations, flat out refuse to debate legislation produced outside of the leadership group, and power grab at all levels of government, that we are no longer operating with a working system of checks and balances. The great experiment appears to be over. I agree. Instead of actually asking question of the Acting Director of National Intelligence they just repeatedly went after their colleagues for apparently asking him any questions at all. I'm sorry but the Republican party has ceased to exist and has been replaced with the Trump Fascist Party. "Fascism is a form of far right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism Outside of perhaps the regimentation of the economy, everything else lines up. I never thought I would type that in my life.
TrueBlueGED Posted September 26, 2019 Report Posted September 26, 2019 No big deal, just the President of the United States casually suggesting the whistleblower and everyone who gave them information be executed.
SABRES 0311 Posted September 27, 2019 Report Posted September 27, 2019 6 hours ago, TrueBlueGED said: No big deal, just the President of the United States casually suggesting the whistleblower and everyone who gave them information be executed. Ya probably could’ve done without that one.
SwampD Posted September 27, 2019 Report Posted September 27, 2019 2 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said: Ya probably could’ve done without that one. Who could have?
SABRES 0311 Posted September 27, 2019 Report Posted September 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, SwampD said: Who could have? Trump could’ve done without saying that. Doesn’t really do him any good. 1
SwampD Posted September 27, 2019 Report Posted September 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said: Trump could’ve done without saying that. Doesn’t really do him any good. He’s not a good dude.
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