Scottysabres Posted April 22, 2019 Report Posted April 22, 2019 11 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said: Aaaaaand I was right the first time. There is a WAPO article saying the leader of the militia was arrested. He was arrested for fire arms violations.
LGR4GM Posted April 22, 2019 Author Report Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Scottysabres said: You have to actually witness them crossing the border illegally, I.e. not an actual "portal of entry". But yes, it's called a citizens arrest. Its actually Constitutional and the left will lose the legal battle ultimately. The very reason illegals are coming across illegally, then turning themselves in to authorities is specifically due to Obama era policies on Asylum. Once the precedent was set they could not only stay while their case is being reviewed, but they must be released and report back for a hearing at a later date, where of course, over 80% fail to report back. Once their in the nation and untraceable, actual American Citizens are at very real risk. And we see it everyday, but Democrats don't give a ***** about your life as an American citizen, the proof is unfolding before our very eyes, bit they cry and whine about human rights, just not your rights, especially if your a Caucasian male American citizen. Democrats, the most racist group I know, historically accurate, the founders of the KKK, tried to destroy the nation to keep slavery, tried to further oppress with Jim Crowe Laws. They will lie to your face about it, just like the immigration disaster that is unfolding now. I see they've finally come around to admitting it is indeed an actual crises, but, did you notice, Trump says send them to sanctuary cities since Democrats refuse to legislatively act, and IMMEDIATELY you see these Lefty snob Democrats say "YOU CAN'T DO THAT"! "NOT IN MY BACK YARD"! The hypocracy would be beyond laughable, if the tragedies they foster to actual citizens weren't so profoundly and deeply sad. They've created an "every man for himself" safety policy. You know that in the 60's the Republican and Democratic party flipped right? No, you just keep on hate mongering from a place of ignorance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/research/published/reversal2.pdf Edited April 22, 2019 by LGR4GM
LGR4GM Posted April 22, 2019 Author Report Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Weave said: And Scottysabres is either ignoring, or woefully ingnorant of the recent history of the Southern Strategy and the defection of the racist element of the Democrats to the Republican side when the Democrats took up the Civil Rights Movement as an official party platform. I suppose he's not any more interested in the intellectual honesty of that huge change than he is interested in the intellectual honesty of the claims of violent criminals coming over the border. He has no interest in being intellectually honest. He calls out democrats for hypocrisy in a post where he is being a hypocrite. Note how silent he has been on the Mueller report. A report that shows his lord and savior, Donald Trump as what he really is. A lying con man who would do anything to further himself. Not the country but himself. Edited April 22, 2019 by LGR4GM
Weave Posted April 22, 2019 Report Posted April 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Scottysabres said: He was arrested for fire arms violations. He’s a convicted felon in possession of firearms illegally. A comvicted felon that thinks he’s going to try to keep criminals out of America.
Eleven Posted April 22, 2019 Report Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) On 4/21/2019 at 8:11 AM, SABRES 0311 said: We’d be saying the same thing if He wasn’t. No, I don't think we would. A twice-divorced serial cheater who "grabs 'em by the *****." And the GOP told me it was the party of Christian morality. This is peak "people don't care anymore." 1 hour ago, Weave said: He’s a convicted felon in possession of firearms illegally. A comvicted felon that thinks he’s going to try to keep criminals out of America. Maybe he's using the "takes one to know one" method of identifying criminals. Edited April 22, 2019 by Eleven 1
SABRES 0311 Posted April 22, 2019 Report Posted April 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Eleven said: No, I don't think we would. A twice-divorced serial cheater who "grabs 'em by the *****." And the GOP told me it was the party of Christian morality. This is peak "people don't care anymore." Maybe you will get Biden in 2020. The guy who just grabs them everywhere and sniffs their hair. I’m glad HRC didn’t win. You talk about morality, the woman got a child rapist off and pushed a lie about why four Americans died in Benghazi. Now you guys have Omar and the window licker AOC as up and comers. Keep virtue signaling for your masters. If you want to know why people are going hard right it’s an equal and opposite reaction.
Weave Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 2 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said: Maybe you will get Biden in 2020. The guy who just grabs them everywhere and sniffs their hair. I’m glad HRC didn’t win. You talk about morality, the woman got a child rapist off and pushed a lie about why four Americans died in Benghazi. Now you guys have Omar and the window licker AOC as up and comers. Keep virtue signaling for your masters. If you want to know why people are going hard right it’s an equal and opposite reaction. I think the biggest problem with this line of logic is, it didn't have to end with "hold my beer" and a Trump vote.
Eleven Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said: Maybe you will get Biden in 2020. The guy who just grabs them everywhere and sniffs their hair. I’m glad HRC didn’t win. You talk about morality, the woman got a child rapist off and pushed a lie about why four Americans died in Benghazi. Now you guys have Omar and the window licker AOC as up and comers. Keep virtue signaling for your masters. If you want to know why people are going hard right it’s an equal and opposite reaction. You're a little out of your spot with this. Biden hugged. He didn't "grab 'em by the *****." He didn't cheat on his wives, and he didn't bang porn stars. And he doesn't belong to the party that claims to be the Christian voice in America (by the way, you never addressed that). Benghazi is a non-issue, and I have no idea why you're still on it, and what child rapist? Is this more pizzagate stuff? BUT: AND I MEAN, READ THIS: "Window licker," or any other metaphor/symbol/slang/whatever for the mentally challenged is not acceptable here. Even when referring to Trumpers. I'll shut it down for 48 hours the next time I see it. The next time I see it from YOU, you're done. Are we clear? Edited April 23, 2019 by Eleven
SABRES 0311 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Eleven said: You're a little out of your spot with this. Biden hugged. He didn't "grab 'em by the *****." He didn't cheat on his wives, and he didn't bang porn stars. And he doesn't belong to the party that claims to be the Christian voice in America (by the way, you never addressed that). Benghazi is a non-issue, and I have no idea why you're still on it, and what child rapist? Is this more pizzagate stuff? BUT: AND I MEAN, READ THIS: "Window licker," or any other metaphor/symbol/slang/whatever for the mentally challenged is not acceptable here. Even when referring to Trumpers. I'll shut it down for 48 hours the next time I see it. The next time I see it from YOU, you're done. Are we clear? Ok bud you do what you have to. I'll take it with a grain of salt from a guy who thinks Benghazi is non issue when the last Dem candidate peddled lies and said what difference does it make. BTW she did successfully defend an accused child rapist by tearing into the kid. You can listen to a video of a conversation she had following the trial where she laughs about the ordeal. As far as Biden goes, if it was your daughter he was touching like that I doubt you would defend him. Maybe I was out of line with my AOC comment. I guess we will see if I was right or wrong in 12 years when the world ends. Her words not mine.
SwampD Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said: Ok bud you do what you have to. I'll take it with a grain of salt from a guy who thinks Benghazi is non issue when the last Dem candidate peddled lies and said what difference does it make. BTW she did successfully defend an accused child rapist by tearing into the kid. You can listen to a video of a conversation she had following the trial where she laughs about the ordeal. As far as Biden goes, if it was your daughter he was touching like that I doubt you would defend him. Maybe I was out of line with my AOC comment. I guess we will see if I was right or wrong in 12 years when the world ends. Her words not mine. Serious question. You said that you are in the service. Why did you choose to go and protect a populace that have such disdain for? Almost three million more people voted for that rapist defending hag than the ***** grabber, yet you decided to go out there and defend our right to be window licking morons who care about clean air and universal health care. Do you really believe the garbage you are spewing or are you just trolling? You've had some good stuff to say so it's a little disappointing when go off the rails.
SABRES 0311 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, SwampD said: Serious question. You said that you are in the service. Why did you choose to go and protect a populace that have such disdain for? Almost three million more people voted for that rapist defending hag than the ***** grabber, yet you decided to go out there and defend our right to be window licking morons who care about clean air and universal health care. Do you really believe the garbage you are spewing or are you just trolling? You've had some good stuff to say so it's a little disappointing when go off the rails. I said what I said because I'm pissed off about what this has become. Trump is not a perfect person, very far from it. I will say the same for myself. I was angry that our election came down to those two. I felt like it would be a decision of the lesser of two evils. Since then he brought KJU to meetings but gets blasted because they haven't denuked yet. He wants to build a wall because physical barriers, when coupled with manpower and technology, do work and gets called racist. I didn't say every person who aligns left. I said it about her specifically. The world will not end in 12 years and IMO it is scare tactics just like the ones that led us down Bush's road post 911. I do want a better planet to leave my kids than the one we have now. I also want to make sure there is a way to provide them good health care without having millions of dollars. Seeing as we agree on that we can debate how to get there which is what I think is supposed to happen. I said what I said because there are two sides to a coin. If people have that much disdain for Trump they need to look at other people too. If anyone thinks this will end when Trump is not president they are wrong. All of this is setting precedence. As for why I do what I do, it has no bearing on anything I say here. But in response to your question I will give it my best. I think our country's history is one of perseverance; Great Depression, Civil War/Reconstruction, Civil Rights, so on. We do take in people looking for a better life and provide aid monetarily and physically throughout the world. Our landscape is diverse and beautiful and our people descend from those who had the courage to tell the most powerful King and country to go to hell. I don't want my kids going to the same places I did so I stick around hoping to see it through as unrealistic as it might be. I think its awesome that one way or another we as a people will get through this and be stronger for it. I don't do my job because I think we are perfect with a perfect history. I do it because although we had dark times we have shown to be remarkable. Its in defense of my children's opportunity to be better than me, not in defense of elected people who act like they know better than you or I. They simply have the stomach for it. I hope that makes it clear where I stand on my country and its people.
Eleven Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said: Ok bud you do what you have to. I'll take it with a grain of salt from a guy who thinks Benghazi is non issue when the last Dem candidate peddled lies and said what difference does it make. BTW she did successfully defend an accused child rapist by tearing into the kid. You can listen to a video of a conversation she had following the trial where she laughs about the ordeal. As far as Biden goes, if it was your daughter he was touching like that I doubt you would defend him. Maybe I was out of line with my AOC comment. I guess we will see if I was right or wrong in 12 years when the world ends. Her words not mine. I don't think it's going to be 12 years, but your great-grandchildren are not going to have a good time. Also, feel free to start an AOC thread if you'd like. Edited April 23, 2019 by Eleven
LTS Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 Let's slow the roll. Call people by their given names, initials, nicknames. There's no need to throw insults into the mix when describing people and their actions. Let their actions speak for themselves and if they are insulting actions then the insult will be obvious. There's certainly no need to engage in the use of derogatory language in some attempt to equate the actions of one person with the supposed incapability of a group of people. It's demeaning to everyone and makes you look foolish. For example: Hillary Rodham Clinton is her name. Also, HRC, Clinton, HIllary. Donald Trump is his name. Also, DJT, Trump, The Don, Donald, The President. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is her name. Also, AOC. It happens once in awhile, but if we let it go unchecked the conversation devolves into who can use the most colorful language rather than who can make the best point.
Scottysabres Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 9:21 AM, LGR4GM said: You know that in the 60's the Republican and Democratic party flipped right? No, you just keep on hate mongering from a place of ignorance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/research/published/reversal2.pdf I choose to ignore your posts because I don't believe any of them. Oh, and by the way, the Party's didn't "switch" as you and LTS propose. The Republicans are still lying cheats of the the public trust, and the Democrats are still oppressors of the people. Your "FAKE NEWS" narrative doesn't fly this way, and not the least bit sorry I say that. I've traveled this nation, as I said, extensively. Lived in 36 states, much of what you post is garbage compared to what I've seen out there. On 4/22/2019 at 9:24 AM, LGR4GM said: He has no interest in being intellectually honest. He calls out democrats for hypocrisy in a post where he is being a hypocrite. Note how silent he has been on the Mueller report. A report that shows his lord and savior, Donald Trump as what he really is. A lying con man who would do anything to further himself. Not the country but himself. Intellectually honest? Really? Ok. The Mueller Report is a non factor for me as far as Trump goes, it is however, going to be a part of the investigation to come, you know the one. Where DEMOCRAT OPERATIVES at the highest positions of Government attempted a coup on a duly elected sitting President in an ALL OUT EFFORT to deprive the Citizens of their right to SELF GOVERN. Your not even conscious to what just transpired, and what is about to come. Lynch, Yates, Comey, Strozk, Page, McCabe, Clinton, Clapper and Brennan to name a few. I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see Obama's name in there, since you know, Page's text about "the White House is handling this" over the FISA situation Is in black and white. Makes what that scumbag Nixon did look like a day care park. Some time, you should read the Federalist Papers, the personal writings of the founders, and the framers, the Articles of Confederation, the early Supreme Court decisions, up to 1825 or so. They will "enlighten" your "Intellectual Honesty". On 4/22/2019 at 11:22 AM, Weave said: He’s a convicted felon in possession of firearms illegally. A comvicted felon that thinks he’s going to try to keep criminals out of America. I said, a fire arms violation. That alone, is felonious. There are no misdemeanors with fire arms.
Weave Posted April 24, 2019 Report Posted April 24, 2019 Hey Scotty, were REPUBLICAN OPERATIVES that impeached Clinton attempting a coup and deprive voters of the right to self govern? If not, where is the difference?
SwampD Posted April 24, 2019 Report Posted April 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Scottysabres said: Some time, you should read the Federalist Papers, the personal writings of the founders, and the framers, the Articles of Confederation, the early Supreme Court decisions, up to 1825 or so. They will "enlighten" your "Intellectual Honesty". There is no way that you have read any of these. I got a good giggle, though, so thank you.
LGR4GM Posted April 24, 2019 Author Report Posted April 24, 2019 8 hours ago, SwampD said: There is no way that you have read any of these. I got a good giggle, though, so thank you. They basically set up the underlying logic behind some parts of the Constitution. They also argue against a Bill of Rights. Well interesting reads, they don't show the whole picture. The Origins of the American Constitution is a good read. Also the Creation of the American Republic is another good read. It has been about 10 years now since I took a course on the history and origins of the US constitution. Was a really fascinating class but I don't remember the details. I could stand to go back and re-read the 2 books I mentioned as they are on my shelf.
LGR4GM Posted April 24, 2019 Author Report Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) Federalist 85 though has a line that I do love: "These judicious reflections contain a lesson of moderation to all the sincere lovers of the Union, and ought to put them upon their guard against hazarding anarchy, civil war, a perpetual alienation of the States from each other, and perhaps the military despotism of a victorious demagogue, in the pursuit of what they are not likely to obtain, but from time and experience." http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed85.asp Edited April 24, 2019 by LGR4GM
Weave Posted May 5, 2019 Report Posted May 5, 2019 (edited) Latest output from the Tweeter in Chief had US tariffs on Chinese goods raising to 25% for more items. This guy has no understanding of how economics works. He’s already affected my employer to the tune of 20% of sales revenue, and its resulted in one layoff already. Here comes another “stimulus”. Trump hasn’t figured out yet that China doesn’t pay the tariif. We do, in the form of higher prices. And that tariff will be met by a counter tariff in China, which will result in lower market share of our products over there. This is not protecting US jobs. It is costing them. Edited May 5, 2019 by Weave
drnkirishone Posted May 5, 2019 Report Posted May 5, 2019 Just like build the wall and lock her up. The tariffs are not done to help the American people. They are done to feed the ego of el orange and to give the chanting rally masses more fuel 1
LGR4GM Posted May 6, 2019 Author Report Posted May 6, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Weave said: Latest output from the Tweeter in Chief had US tariffs on Chinese goods raising to 25% for more items. This guy has no understanding of how economics works. He’s already affected my employer to the tune of 20% of sales revenue, and its resulted in one layoff already. Here comes another “stimulus”. Trump hasn’t figured out yet that China doesn’t pay the tariif. We do, in the form of higher prices. And that tariff will be met by a counter tariff in China, which will result in lower market share of our products over there. This is not protecting US jobs. It is costing them. He has roughly 18 months to tank the economy and there are signs that we are headed in that direction. Wage growth is still modest at best and as the middle class dies, cost of living goes up, and companies just make record profits, eventually there is a bubble. For the record this is a trend that predates Donald Trump but he has done nothing to help the middle class and there is mounting evidence it is getting worse. Source: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/1/18246233/economic-growth-workers-wages-economy https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/12/business/economy/trumps-tax-cut-was-supposed-to-change-corporate-behavior-heres-what-happened.html?src=rec&recp=1 Edited May 6, 2019 by LGR4GM
LGR4GM Posted May 7, 2019 Author Report Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) What an interesting week. Barr refuses to hand over un-redacted Mueller report. Munchen refuses to turn over Trump's tax returns. Trump is threatening more tariffs and has started to suggest his first 2 years in office were "stolen". Edited May 9, 2019 by LGR4GM error
SABRES 0311 Posted May 7, 2019 Report Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) Per CNN: Pompeo takes a detour to undisclosed location. I wonder if this has anything to do with the carrier group we just moved. Edit: Trip was to Iraq. He reaffirmed our commitment to Iraqi sovereignty amid heightened Iranian threats. Edited May 7, 2019 by SABRES 0311
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