dudacek Posted July 2, 2018 Report Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) The draft is done, free agency is mostly done and the big trades are likely done. The next order of business is signing our RFAs, most importantly Sam Reinhart. With O'Reilly gone, I think Sam's role will grow to fill parts of that gap. Sam's back half convinced me that he is a core piece and the ROR trade leads me to think Botterill may think so too. I would try to pay more now and benefit on the back half — tie him up on a long-term deal, so that we will only have Dahlin and Casey to deal with when we are good. I'd like to see six years, $30 million. Comparables this summer Thomas Hertl: 4 years, $5.64 per JT Miller: 5 years, $5.25 per Max Domi: 2 years, $3.1 per Elias Lindholm: TBD, Andre Burakovsky: TBD Over the past few years: Leon Draisaitl: 8 years, $8.5 per Evgeny Kuznetsov 8 years, $7.8 per David Pastrnak 6 years, $6.6 per Sean Monahan 7 years, $6.3 per Brandon Saad, 6 years, $6 per Jonathan Huberdeau 6 years, $5.9 per Alexander Barkov, 6 years, $5.9 per Jonathan Drouin 6 years, $5.5 per Bo Horvat 6 years, $5.5 per Mika Zibanejad, 5 years, $5.3 per Alex Wennberg 6 years, $4.9 per Vincent Trochek, 6 years, 4.75 per Sean Couturier 6 years, $4.3 per Edited July 2, 2018 by dudacek Quote
IKnowPhysics Posted July 2, 2018 Report Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) I'd like to see six years, $30 million. Somewhere between that and 7x$5.5M. Edited July 2, 2018 by IKnowPhysics Quote
darksabre Posted July 2, 2018 Report Posted July 2, 2018 Gonna be a tough one. I could see 6 x 6. Quote
Taro T Posted July 2, 2018 Report Posted July 2, 2018 I'd expect $33MM over 6 years. (Guess that's spliting the difference.) Quote
sweetlou Posted July 3, 2018 Report Posted July 3, 2018 How about $33 over 6 years... 18/19- 4.0 19/20- 5.0 20/21- 6.0 21/22- 6.0 22/23- 6.0 23/23- 6.0 Cap hit would $5.5 million or bridge him with 2 yr 8 million 18/19- 4.0 19/20- 4.0 Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 3, 2018 Report Posted July 3, 2018 I like the idea of a long-term deal that will look very good for the team ... no bridging. 8 years ... $6.25M per. I believe that will be a steal of a deal by year 3, or 4. Quote
Derrico Posted July 3, 2018 Report Posted July 3, 2018 How many years until Reinhart is UFA? Is it 5 or 6 more years? If that's the case, nfw am I doing a 6 year deal. I'm going 2 x 4.5 or I'm going with NS prediction. Quote
nfreeman Posted July 3, 2018 Report Posted July 3, 2018 NFW would I give Reino more than 2 years. I hope I’m wrong, but so far he seems fundamentally unserious and entitled — ie someone who needs external motivation, and exactly the wrong kind of guy to give a long-term deal to. Quote
WildCard Posted July 3, 2018 Report Posted July 3, 2018 NFW would I give Reino more than 2 years. I hope I’m wrong, but so far he seems fundamentally unserious and entitled — ie someone who needs external motivation, and exactly the wrong kind of guy to give a long-term deal to. You're crazy. Sure, give him that 2 year deal and watch him hit UFA with way better numbers and demand way more money Quote
nfreeman Posted July 3, 2018 Report Posted July 3, 2018 I could be mistaken but I don’t think he’s unrestricted for another 4 seasons. Quote
Drunkard Posted July 3, 2018 Report Posted July 3, 2018 How many years until Reinhart is UFA? Is it 5 or 6 more years? If that's the case, nfw am I doing a 6 year deal. I'm going 2 x 4.5 or I'm going with NS prediction. It's 7 years or age 27. Reinhart has 4 rfa years left. I'd either do a bridge of 3 years or less or give him an 8 year deal, nothing in between. Quote
WildCard Posted July 3, 2018 Report Posted July 3, 2018 I could be mistaken but I don’t think he’s unrestricted for another 4 seasons. It's 7 years or age 27. Reinhart has 4 rfa years left. I'd either do a bridge of 3 years or less or give him an 8 year deal, nothing in between. My mistake then. Always thought it was ELC -> RFA -> UFA, and the RFA contract didn't matter for term, as long as it was fulfilled Quote
ubkev Posted July 3, 2018 Report Posted July 3, 2018 A bus load of bottles and cans apparently. I laughed my balls off at this. Thank you. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted July 3, 2018 Report Posted July 3, 2018 NFW would I give Reino more than 2 years. I hope I’m wrong, but so far he seems fundamentally unserious and entitled — ie someone who needs external motivation, and exactly the wrong kind of guy to give a long-term deal to. I wouldn't be surprised at all that this is the case, and I'd like our cap guru to squeeze him in on a very nice deal because of the uncertainty in Sam Reinhart. Quote
Drunkard Posted July 3, 2018 Report Posted July 3, 2018 NFW would I give Reino more than 2 years. I hope I’m wrong, but so far he seems fundamentally unserious and entitled — ie someone who needs external motivation, and exactly the wrong kind of guy to give a long-term deal to. I'd probably go with a 3 year deal since it would still leave him as an RFA at the end of it. He'll be 25 at that point and then if they want to lock him up they can sign him for up to 8 years without the risking of paying him into any declining years. Quote
dudacek Posted July 3, 2018 Author Report Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) I'd probably go with a 3 year deal since it would still leave him as an RFA at the end of it. He'll be 25 at that point and then if they want to lock him up they can sign him for up to 8 years without the risking of paying him into any declining years. Three years from now they are also going to be (hopefully) paying Casey and Dahlin big bucks when their entry level deals expire. If all three of those guys hit, you could be looking at a $25 million cap hit in one shot. Pay for some Reinhart UFA years now, benefit later. If you have to bridge him, two years please, not three. Edited July 3, 2018 by dudacek Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted July 3, 2018 Report Posted July 3, 2018 Part of me wants to see a long-term deal just to see if Freeman has a little Liger in him. But really, I'd prefer to bridge him. 3 years at something like $4.5M makes sense to me. Quote
Hoss Posted July 3, 2018 Report Posted July 3, 2018 If they go over $5 million for a guy who looked like he barely belonged in the NHL for half the season it’s a big mistake. This is definitely a situation where I prefer a bridge deal. Two or three years at $4.5M max. Offer 2 at $4.5M or 3 at $4.25M. Quote
Drunkard Posted July 3, 2018 Report Posted July 3, 2018 Three years from now they are also going to be (hopefully) paying Casey and Dahlin big bucks when their entry level deals expire. If all three of those guys hit, you could be looking at a $25 million cap hit in one shot. Pay for some Reinhart UFA years now, benefit later. If you have to bridge him, two years please, not three. Good point. I'd go 2 years or 8 years then. Quote
ubkev Posted July 3, 2018 Report Posted July 3, 2018 He's getting traded. Does he do a ton of blow? Quote
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