TrueBlueGED Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 If there's one important thing we have to keep in mind today, it's that a 4th liner simply must get his own thread. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 14 of 23 comments are not on topic. Come one people, let Wilson have his thread and start your anther if you want to bitch about the Leafs. I didn't catch that, could you speak up? Quote
Randall Flagg Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 It sucks that we need Wilson but as long as Pominville is a thing Quote
Iron Crotch Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 14 of 23 comments are not on topic. Come one people, let Wilson have his thread and start your anther if you want to bitch about the Leafs. You quoted my post, which wasn't about the Leafs. ;) (In all seriousness, most threads around here go off topic - it's just sort of the way of the board; I've found that posting a strong opinion directly related to the topic is one way to get it back on topic) Quote
inkman Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 I'm glad to see July 1st, which historically is chock full of terrible contracts, is somehow the measuring stick we use for success as a franchise. Psstt. We got out guys. Eichel, Mitts, Dahlin, Reino, Risto, O'Reilly or his net worth, Scandella, plus all the kids we thought so much of to watch a 3 on 3 tourney with bated breathe. Save me all the consternation about overpaying today. Quote
IKnowPhysics Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 I'm glad to see July 1st, which historically is chock full of terrible contracts, is somehow the measuring stick we use for success as a franchise. No, you're right. But it's also one of the few times enabled by the CBA and modern player movement market in which most teams can attempt to improve their rosters while spending no player assets, only cash and cap space, to do so. We have cash and cap space. And we have needs. And we were dead last. I think fans are hoping Botterill will get out there and drink responsibly. Quote
inkman Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 No, you're right. But it's also one of the few times enabled by the CBA and modern player movement market in which most teams can attempt to improve their rosters while spending no player assets, only cash and cap space, to do so. We have cash and cap space. And we have needs. And we were dead last. I think fans are hoping Botterill will get out there and drink responsibly. None of the deals today remind me of responsible. Everyone overpaid as this the season to do so. I'm good with building through the draft. Quote
Sabre fan Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 while re-signing wilson is okay, GMJBotto still hasn't done anything that makes me go WOW! In fact I've seennothing that exGMTM could not have done. meanwhile the TO press making it sound like their new nerdy young GM did all the hard work in getting JT to sign which is pretty funny...I could have gone along with BS and sat there and said a few things and taken credit for signing the guy. anyways, TO will never win much with that D...and they lost more then they added... Quote
Iron Crotch Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 No, you're right. But it's also one of the few times enabled by the CBA and modern player movement market in which most teams can attempt to improve their rosters while spending no player assets, only cash and cap space, to do so. We have cash and cap space. And we have needs. And we were dead last. I think fans are hoping Botterill will get out there and drink responsibly. Yeah, I always look at it two ways: Obviously you want to improve you team if you can, but I also think the marketing/PR perspective is important. You are selling hope to fans by signing a free agent or two. We've been so bad for so long that I think the marketing/PR perspective is particularly important for the Sabres. Quote
inkman Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) while re-signing wilson is okay, GMJBotto still hasn't done anything that makes me go WOW! In fact I've seennothing that exGMTM could not have done. meanwhile the TO press making it sound like their new nerdy young GM did all the hard work in getting JT to sign which is pretty funny...I could have gone along with BS and sat there and said a few things and taken credit for signing the guy. anyways, TO will never win much with that D...and they lost more then they added... What, exactly, would you like them to have done? Edited July 1, 2018 by inkman Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 while re-signing wilson is okay, GMJBotto still hasn't done anything that makes me go WOW! In fact I've seennothing that exGMTM could not have done. JBot has stated growth comes from the farm up (come on everyone, repeat the mantra). It's an approach that doesn't lend itself to flashy trades and overpriced signings, but one that I hope will lead to a longer term period of contention for the Sabres. You don't see the big splashes during the off-season, but hopefully we will see it as the prospects push their way into the Sabres lineup. Quote
apuszczalowski Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 Since last season the Sabres added a top 4 D in Dahlin. A top 6 foward in Mittelstadt, another top 6 forward invSheary and improved their goaltending. Tor added J.T., but what gave they done about their terrible D? and which one of those teams made the playoffs and which one was out by thanksgiving? Quote
Trettioåtta Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 So where do people think he slots into the line up? Quote
Taro T Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 So where do people think he slots into the line up? When the Sabres are good - 4LW. Now? 2LW or 3LW. Quote
IKnowPhysics Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 So where do people think he slots into the line up? As is, he's the second best LW on the roster behind Sheary, presuming Reinhart or ROR or whatever don't play LW. He's followed by Girgenens and Larsson, who are racing each other for 4th line LW. Quote
TheAud Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 Toronto signs a 1C to go with their 1C. Buffalo signs a 13 forward I look forward to the playoffs Very true. Observers league wide were linking “Tavares Watch” with “Wilson Watch” all the time, so your post makes total sense. Quote
Trettioåtta Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 Very true. Observers league wide were linking “Tavares Watch” with “Wilson Watch” all the time, so your post makes total sense. They were announced at the same time, so I was commenting on the comparison of what the two franchises achieved today Quote
apuszczalowski Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 Very true. Observers league wide were linking “Tavares Watch” with “Wilson Watch” all the time, so your post makes total sense.ok, then we can compare the Leafs move with the other forward the Sabres signed today...... Quote
Derrico Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 Toronto's D is not terrible. They have a nice collection of top-4 players, even if none of them are a cornerstone stud. What?? Morgan Riley is the only guy I would feel comfortable labelling as a top 4 on that team. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 What?? Morgan Riley is the only guy I would feel comfortable labelling as a top 4 on that team. I think Gardiner is their best by a reasonable margin. Rielly and Zaitsev are petty close. All 3 are top-4 guys, if no true first pairing amongst them. Plus they have Liljegren and Dermott on the way probably this year. No true studs, but again, you can get away with it when you have their forwards. Quote
Derrico Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 I think Gardiner is their best by a reasonable margin. Rielly and Zaitsev are petty close. All 3 are top-4 guys, if no true first pairing amongst them. Plus they have Liljegren and Dermott on the way probably this year. No true studs, but again, you can get away with it when you have their forwards. The fan base literally had a go fund me page set up to buy out Gardiners contract last year and he’s the best of them all. He’s a good puck mover but still a liability in his own end. They do have some guys coming but I would be pretty surprised if Liljegren plays a significant roll this season. I don’t know much about Dermott. Leafs probably have a top 3 forward group in the league and a decent to good goalie but their D is not good. I would rank them bottom half of the league pretty easily. I talk to arrogant leaf fans daily who brag about guys even during the teams down years and it’s pretty unanimous everyone I talk to is constantly concerned about their D. There’s a reason their games are usually high scoring even though Anderson is a pretty good goalie. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 The fan base literally had a go fund me page set up to buy out Gardiners contract last year and he’s the best of them all. He’s a good puck mover but still a liability in his own end. They do have some guys coming but I would be pretty surprised if Liljegren plays a significant roll this season. I don’t know much about Dermott. Leafs probably have a top 3 forward group in the league and a decent to good goalie but their D is not good. I would rank them bottom half of the league pretty easily. I talk to arrogant leaf fans daily who brag about guys even during the teams down years and it’s pretty unanimous everyone I talk to is constantly concerned about their D. There’s a reason their games are usually high scoring even though Anderson is a pretty good goalie. Leafs fans also ran Kessel out of town. The dumping on Gardiner is a perfect example of highlighting the negative and not giving enough credit to the positive. Look at how O'Reilly gets smacked around by more than a few Sabres fans. Same thing. Quote
Huckleberry Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 Its a good bottom six signing lets not whine about anything else here. Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 2, 2018 Report Posted July 2, 2018 Its a good bottom six signing lets not whine about anything else here. Well . Why didn't I just say it that way instead of losing my upthread? Quote
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