GASabresIUFAN Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 How can they let Trotz walk? He was making 1.5 on the last year of his deal. Winning the Cup activated a optional 2 year extention at 1.8. Apparently the Caps wouldn’t offer abetter deal so Trotz walked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 We'd have to consider making a phone call, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 We'd have to consider making a phone call, right? I can't see Botterill doing something like that. Take that however you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 I can't see Botterill doing something like that. Take that however you want. We'd be very stupid to make this phone call. Not only do I think Trotz is overrated, but we just got a HC ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 We'd be very stupid to make this phone call. Not only do I think Trotz is overrated, but we just got a HC ffs I'm of two minds. I think one should always explore options, but I think one should also avoid doing things that make you or your company look like a circus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 I'm of two minds. I think one should always explore options, but I think one should also avoid doing things that make you or your company look like a circus. I'm not sure this would make us look like a circus. Hiring the Cup-winning coach isn't exactly promoting Ron Rolston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 I'm not sure this would make us look like a circus. Hiring the Cup-winning coach isn't exactly promoting Ron Rolston. It would definitely make us look like a circus. We change Head Coaches, again, right after we've already committed to one, right before the draft and Free Agency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 It would definitely make us look like a circus. We change Head Coaches, again, right after we've already committed to one, right before the draft and Free Agency? The opportunity to hire Trotz literally didn't exist until today. I don't think it's a bad look timing-wise. On the other hand, you could certainly argue firing Housley after only 1 year is a bad look. Either way, I don't think it's a circus look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 (edited) The opportunity to hire Trotz literally didn't exist until today. I don't think it's a bad look timing-wise. On the other hand, you could certainly argue firing Housley after only 1 year is a bad look. Either way, I don't think it's a circus look. The opportunity to hire better coaches than Trotz has existed before today. It's not how good the coach is, it's the uncertainty and disbelief in our own guy, who we had a very extensive process for, after 1 year. It would make our entire hiring and evaluation process laughable, and make our judgement and commitment to anything suspect at best Edited June 18, 2018 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 (edited) The opportunity to hire better coaches than Trotz has existed before today. It's not how good the coach is, it's the uncertainty and disbelief in our own guy, who we had a very extensive process for, after 1 year. It would make our entire hiring and evaluation process laughable, and make our judgement and commitment to anything suspect at best Maybe, maybe not. But the opportunity to hire the most recent Cup winner was most definitely not an option when we hired Housley. I think these are special circumstances. Edit: Mind you, I'm not exactly advocating for it. I just don't think there's any way we'd get slammed for doing so. Probably the harshest take would be "Housley got a raw deal, but....Cup winner." Edited June 18, 2018 by TrueBlueGED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 I'm of two minds. I think one should always explore options, but I think one should also avoid doing things that make you or your company look like a circus. PT Barnum might disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Maybe, maybe not. But the opportunity to hire the most recent Cup winner was most definitely not an option when we hired Housley. I think these are special circumstances. Edit: Mind you, I'm not exactly advocating for it. I just don't think there's any way we'd get slammed for doing so. Probably the harshest take would be "Housley got a raw deal, but....Cup winner." Alain Vigneault is a better HC than Trotz, IMO I don't think we'd get slammed in the media as much as slammed within the hockey world. Players, GM's, other teams are going to look at us like a clown show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Alain Vigneault is a better HC than Trotz, IMO I don't think we'd get slammed in the media as much as slammed within the hockey world. Players, GM's, other teams are going to look at us like a clown show You're nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 (edited) You're nuts. Like, in general? Separately, how do you not pay the guy who just won you your first Stanley Cup? It's not like it counts against your cap or anything Looking at some other boards, I guess Reirdan is the clear choice here. The Caps have been grooming him, expecting this to be Trotz' last year anyways Edited June 18, 2018 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Alain Vigneault is a better HC than Trotz, IMO I don't think we'd get slammed in the media as much as slammed within the hockey world. Players, GM's, other teams are going to look at us like a clown show We are already looked at as a clown show. The only difference if we hired Trotz is, they would call us a clown show with a Stanley Cup winning coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 No move that improves the last place team out of last place is a clown move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 No move that improves the last place team out of last place is a clown move. Trading Eichel? Replacing Botterill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Does this team get better if you trade away Eichel? Bah, I was just posting lazy fortune cookie . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 We are already looked at as a clown show. The only difference if we hired Trotz is, they would call us a clown show with a Stanley Cup winning coach. Didn't we already go through that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Didn't we already go through that? Maybe the kids actually listen to this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Didn't we already go through that? I didn't want to bring it up. Bylsma had a Cup and the highest active winning percentage in the NHL when he was hired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 Can you go from a clown show to a three ring circus ? We're already last overall 3 of the last 5 years. Its a shitshow folks. They're already laughing at us. Can't get much worse from here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 There's more to looking inept than just losing games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 There's more to looking inept than just losing games I think we've covered all those looks at this point. LOL at us for laughing at Toronto, the Island, and everyone else we have fun at the expense of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) If Phil goes something like 5-15 again, the choices should be 1. Ruff, 2. Trotz. Feel free to shoot me. Edited June 19, 2018 by Eleven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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