North Buffalo Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Do we think Anderson could be a quality starter? If so, Moulson (Ottawa needs cap floor help) and #32? His GAA is decent. Plays well with a good defense in front of him and can get hot. Maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 The full Dreger Quote The message that I got specific to Ryan O’Reilly – it’s got to be the right return,” said Dreger. “I know that Buffalo has asked for the third pick overall from the Montreal Canadiens. Why wouldn’t you? Doesn’t mean you’re going to get it, but you’re certainly not going to get it if you don’t ask for it. Is Jason Botterill willing to soften off that? We’re going to find out. “What we know is that when you move a piece like that, there’s some inherent risk with the inexperience that you have in your lineup. Are they absolutely certain that Casey Mittelstadt can handle that role as second line center. If you think that he can, and you get the deal for Ryan O’Reilly that makes sense, then you make that deal. “But as of last night, it didn’t sound like it was very close.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 I would be completely fine heading into the next season with no major trades of skaters, provided: -A good goalie has been added -Depth is truly bolstered through small trades and signings, so that there is zero dead weight and proper shelter of the young guys expecting to play -One medium-tier UFA signing And immediate evidence that Phil's usage isn't garbage once the season starts, when the excuse of a weak roster is taken away. That being said, I'm still fine with core shakeups. I would first look at Ristolainen. Risto is the least of our problems and is part of the long term solution. Absolutely disagree with the idea of sending him away. Why weaken the team in an area where we need strength...makes no sense to me. This is not an addition by subtraction situation with Risto. Others, absolutely....don't let the door hit you on the way out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetlou Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Another fun idea... Three way trade.. Reinhart, Risto and #32 to Edmonton Edmonton sends RNH and #10 to Montreal Edmonton sends Klefbom and Montoya to Buffalo Montreal sends #3 and Gallagher to Buffalo How it shakes up for each team- Montreal trades #3 and Gallagher for RNH and #10 Edmonton trades RNH, Klefbom, Montoya and #10 for Reinhart, Risto #32 Buffalo trades Reinhart, Risto and #32 for Gallagher, Klefbom, Montoya and #3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Blizzard Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 I'm more and more comfortable with Eichel as our 1, ROR as our 2 and Mittlestadt as our 3 this year. ROR is going anywhere, if Casey emerges, trade ROR at deadline or next off season. In the meantime, we try and create 3 effective lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 @PierreVLeBrun Expectation is that J.P. Barry, agent for Ilya Kovalchuk, will meet with the top four contenders for the UFA's services today _ Boston, L.A., SJ and Vegas _ to advance proceedings along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 From Chad Demoncis Also really quick I talked about it last night a little. From what I was told the main target for the #Sabres in a Hurricanes trade package is not Skinner or Hanifin. They’re very interested in Elias Lindholm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 From Chad Demoncis Also really quick I talked about it last night a little. From what I was told the main target for the #Sabres in a Hurricanes trade package is not Skinner or Hanifin. They’re very interested in Elias Lindholm. I like that choice more than Hanifiin or Skinner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 If Oliver Wahlstrom was the target at 7 and he was on the board, I would seriously consider moving Reinhart to Vancouver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 From Chad Demoncis Also really quick I talked about it last night a little. From what I was told the main target for the #Sabres in a Hurricanes trade package is not Skinner or Hanifin. They’re very interested in Elias Lindholm. Yes please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Risto is the least of our problems and is part of the long term solution. Absolutely disagree with the idea of sending him away. Why weaken the team in an area where we need strength...makes no sense to me. This is not an addition by subtraction situation with Risto. Others, absolutely....don't let the door hit you on the way out. If I was trading Risto, it would come with pursuing an avenue to fill the hole it opens up. I would start with him because the team is worse when he is on the ice than when he's off, and the same can't be said for ROR and Reinhart. My view is that this stems from his hockey sense. I believe his value around the league is higher than this value he brings to the ice, so I think he's the core player that would best stand to improve our team in a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 From Chad Demoncis Also really quick I talked about it last night a little. From what I was told the main target for the #Sabres in a Hurricanes trade package is not Skinner or Hanifin. They’re very interested in Elias Lindholm. Been a Lindholm fan since his draft year. Definitely the right age and also a guy we haven't seen the best of yet. Carolina cheaping out on his contract too. Sets things up nicely for a July 1 deal, with Bean or Fleury as the other piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Lindholm is a better NHLer currently than Hanifin, is less flashy and less talented than Skinner, but younger with more team control. His ceiling is well below Hanifin's, too. I would like to acquire him. I don't know what we'd be trading. If it wasn't ROR or Reinhart, then Lindholm - ROR - Reinhart would be the most interesting line we've iced in a long, long time. He'd also be the best winger for Jack that we've ever given Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) He's versatile, a good two-way guy and is a natural centre — believe he played there most of the second half of last year. He also fits the Freeman profile if someone who isn't sexy, but we will come to appreciate down the road. Edited June 22, 2018 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 He's versatile, a good two-way guy and is a natural centre — believe he played there most of the second half of last year. He also fits the Freeman profile if someone who isn't sexy, but we will come to appreciate down the road. I had honestly thought he had switched to wing full time. This is even better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 If I was trading Risto, it would come with pursuing an avenue to fill the hole it opens up. I would start with him because the team is worse when he is on the ice than when he's off, and the same can't be said for ROR and Reinhart. My view is that this stems from his hockey sense. I believe his value around the league is higher than this value he brings to the ice, so I think he's the core player that would best stand to improve our team in a trade. I think Risto brings a couple of attributes that we need. He is still one of the more physical D-men and brings an edge to his game that our others are lacking. Second, he brings offense to support the attack. Granted his play declined last year and my own bias is that Hajt is not the right coach for him. If there is an addition by subtraction situation, I am in the camp of those who believe a reduction in his playing time will result in better quality of play on his end. We keep trading our D-men talent wishing we could do a "re-do" and get them back (ex. McNabb, Myers, maybe even Zadorov and Pysyk) with very little in return. Let's not contribute to this terrible trend and focus on "tweaks" to Risto's game that can make him indispensable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 I think Risto brings a couple of attributes that we need. He is still one of the more physical D-men and brings an edge to his game that our others are lacking. Second, he brings offense to support the attack. Granted his play declined last year and my own bias is that Hajt is not the right coach for him. If there is an addition by subtraction situation, I am in the camp of those who believe a reduction in his playing time will result in better quality of play on his end. We keep trading our D-men talent wishing we could do a "re-do" and get them back (ex. McNabb, Myers, maybe even Zadorov and Pysyk) with very little in return. Let's not contribute to this terrible trend and focus on "tweaks" to Risto's game that can make him indispensable. I agree that Risto stands to get better with better usage. I just don't believe in his ability to process the game at speed, which is why he's the first one I look to move. But I'm not hell-bent on trading him either, by any means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 All I can think about with regards to ROR is how much it has to suck to have your name being thrown around every other minute. I know it's a business, but man it has to be bothersome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityo'Rasmii Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 I think Risto brings a couple of attributes that we need. He is still one of the more physical D-men and brings an edge to his game that our others are lacking. Second, he brings offense to support the attack. Granted his play declined last year and my own bias is that Hajt is not the right coach for him. If there is an addition by subtraction situation, I am in the camp of those who believe a reduction in his playing time will result in better quality of play on his end. We keep trading our D-men talent wishing we could do a "re-do" and get them back (ex. McNabb, Myers, maybe even Zadorov and Pysyk) with very little in return. Let's not contribute to this terrible trend and focus on "tweaks" to Risto's game that can make him indispensable. Yup, keep Risto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Just give me Hannifin, Lindholm, #2, and a handy in exchange for ROR, Josefson, and Falk, and we'll be all set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 All I can think about with regards to ROR is how much it has to suck to have your name being thrown around every other minute. I know it's a business, but man it has to be bothersome. Depends on what people in the organization are saying not what the media and fans are saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Chad DeDominicis is on record around the trade deadline saying that there were not many offers coming in for Kane, so he does seem to have contacts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 All I can think about with regards to ROR is how much it has to suck to have your name being thrown around every other minute. I know it's a business, but man it has to be bothersome. It's his fault, if he never made the comment about his loss of love for the game he probably not be thought of as a trade target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 The only way we should even contemplate trading Ristolainen is if a better RHD is coming back in the trade. Maybe he looks overmatched at times because he plays 26+ minutes a night and he's usually the guy who gets put out there against the other team's best players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Yup, keep Risto Agreed. Risto, Eichel and Mittlestadt are the "untouchables" if I were managing the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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