pi2000 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 I spoke briefly with ROR tonight. He said anything is possible when asked if he thinks he'll still be a Sabre come this weekend. But, fwiw, he did look awfully disheveled.. but he kinda always looks that way. Quote
WildCard Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) I spoke briefly with ROR tonight. He said anything is possible when asked if he thinks he'll still be a Sabre come this weekend. But, fwiw, he did look awfully disheveled.. but he kinda always looks that way. Where were you that you had a chance to speak with him? Edited June 21, 2018 by WildCard Quote
3putt Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 Vegas if true. Ror was there for the awards. Quote
GoPuckYourself Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 I don't think O'Reilly will be traded for draft picks I think he''l be traded for an established player, possibly a Defenseman like a Tyson barrie of COL or Kris Letang of Pittsburgh then trade Ristolainen for a top Winger like Pacioretty and a draft pick? Makes more sense imo. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 I’m torn on what to do with Hamilton’s inside scoop on the tension arising from O’Reilly’s resentment of Eichel. I’ve sworn off Hamilton in the recent past. But I heard his take, and it had the ring of truth to it. Quote
Weave Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 I as wondering if I was going to have to, yet again, post that it isn't speed, it is pace of play. And ROR plays with a very good pace of play. Thank you. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 From an apparently legitimate Flyers blogger: The #Flyers & #Sabres trade rumors go all the way back to the deadline. I reported they were working on something big at the deadline. Deals like these take time. O'Reilly is a name thats been rumored to be on the Flyers radar since January #FlyersTalk #LetsGoFlyers #EarnTomorrow Quote
Radar Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 Speed is the flavour of the month. It’s useful and it’s important, but it’s just one weapon of many. Evander Kane is much faster at carrying or chasing the puck than ROR or Freeman’s other favourite turtle, Reinhart. But the turtles are much faster at getting the puck or themselves to where they need to go because they are much more efficient at processing the game than Kane will ever be. It’s not how fast you skate, it’s how fast you play. Thank you. How many players have we all seen who can fly with speed not knowing where to go. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 I don’t think ROR gets discussed as a bit slow for no good reason. There were innumerable instances last year where he just looked like he was behind the play - especially 5v5. OTOH, I am confident that he’ll work his ass off this offseason and concentrate on improving his speed. He’ll look quicker this coming season. Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 I don’t think ROR gets discussed as a bit slow for no good reason. There were innumerable instances last year where he just looked like he was behind the play - especially 5v5. OTOH, I am confident that he’ll work his ass off this offseason and concentrate on improving his speed. He’ll look quicker this coming season. Idk, the Flyers are a decently fast team. Quote
Derrico Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 Idk, the Flyers are a decently fast team. Nice. If ROR is traded to the Flyers, what kind of package are we looking at? I think Provorov is untouchable so no point including him in any scenario. Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 Nice. If ROR is traded to the Flyers, what kind of package are we looking at? I think Provorov is untouchable so no point including him in any scenario. I would ask for Sanheim, Frost, #19 and Scott Laughton. Quote
North Buffalo Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) I don’t think ROR gets discussed as a bit slow for no good reason. There were innumerable instances last year where he just looked like he was behind the play - especially 5v5. OTOH, I am confident that he’ll work his ass off this offseason and concentrate on improving his speed. He’ll look quicker this coming season. He only looked slow when the team was done at the end of the season. He didnt during winter classic. He is bull down low. No he isnt fast, but he works all game... at the end of the season he had a bunch of wtf am doing here moments, as he said I lost my mojo to paraphrase. I wouldnt trade him him unless its for a lot. And actually like the tension between him and Jack. Keeps Jack on his toes and pushed him to grow up. Also ROR has chemistry with Sam and finally Sam looks like he finding his game. Sabres just need guys who can play with Jack and Jack needs to learn to play at John Tavares level of intensity. Here is hoping Dhalin is as intense as JT and pushes Jack too. Jack is too affable on the ice and then petulant when things dont ggo his way. Hes improving at it but his intensity consistently needs to still get to his skill level, not in short butsts. Wed be calling him a lazy Russian if he was from there. Edited June 21, 2018 by North Buffalo Quote
Eleven Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) I swear, if O'Reilly ends up being traded for draft picks, I'm going to wiggle my willy at Botterill the next time I see him. Edited June 21, 2018 by Eleven Quote
shrader Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 I’m torn on what to do with Hamilton’s inside scoop on the tension arising from O’Reilly’s resentment of Eichel. I’ve sworn off Hamilton in the recent past. But I heard his take, and it had the ring of truth to it. So in other words, you never believe Hamilton except for those times where you do believe him? ;) Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 I swear, if O'Reilly ends up being traded for draft picks, I'm going to wiggle my willy at Botterill the next time I see him.Morgan Frost! Quote
Georgia Blizzard Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 Speed is the flavour of the month. It’s useful and it’s important, but it’s just one weapon of many. Evander Kane is much faster at carrying or chasing the puck than ROR or Freeman’s other favourite turtle, Reinhart. But the turtles are much faster at getting the puck or themselves to where they need to go because they are much more efficient at processing the game than Kane will ever be. It’s not how fast you skate, it’s how fast you play. Amen Quote
Randall Flagg Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 From an apparently legitimate Flyers blogger: The #Flyers & #Sabres trade rumors go all the way back to the deadline. I reported they were working on something big at the deadline. Deals like these take time. O'Reilly is a name thats been rumored to be on the Flyers radar since January #FlyersTalk #LetsGoFlyers #EarnTomorrow It tickles me now seeing how carefully these are worded. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 He only looked slow when the team was done at the end of the season. He didnt during winter classic. He is bull down low. No he isnt fast, but he works all game... at the end of the season he had a bunch of wtf am doing here moments, as he said I lost my mojo to paraphrase. I wouldnt trade him him unless its for a lot. And actually like the tension between him and Jack. Keeps Jack on his toes and pushed him to grow up. Also ROR has chemistry with Sam and finally Sam looks like he finding his game. Sabres just need guys who can play with Jack and Jack needs to learn to play at John Tavares level of intensity. Here is hoping Dhalin is as intense as JT and pushes Jack too. Jack is too affable on the ice and then petulant when things dont ggo his way. Hes improving at it but his intensity consistently needs to still get to his skill level, not in short butsts. Wed be calling him a lazy Russian if he was from there. I'm not sure about Jack the lazy Russian, but I like this take. There's a weird group think arising around here and elsewhere that ROR needs must be traded. So in other words, you never believe Hamilton except for those times where you do believe him? ;) Haha - well, I am tempted to credit him here. Quote
Brawndo Posted June 21, 2018 Author Report Posted June 21, 2018 Dreger from a radio spot this AM Then with Rasmus Dahlin set to be the first player taken when the draft begins Friday and Andrei Svechnikov seemingly destined for the Carolina Hurricanes next, the Canadiens’ No. 3 pick is seen as where the draft really begins. “Yeah, and assuming that Bergevin and the Montreal Canadiens hold onto that pick… it feels like they have to go with a center, don’t they?” pondered Darren Dreger during a Thursday morning radio hit on Montreal’s TSN 690. “And that Kotkaniemi seems to be at least in debate for being the top center available. That might be a stretch higher than most teams would be comfortable taking him, but not really. And again, it’s based on need. “Now, you can’t expect that player to step into the National Hockey League and be a first or a second-line center immediately for the Montreal Canadiens. So he doesn’t soothe all of the woes up the middle of the ice in Montreal. But you still have to develop and draft depth in that position because it’s a position of need, of significant need, in Montreal. “So I think it’s going to be interesting to see how things unfold in the next couple of days here in respect to how Bergevin manages the picks that he has. “Pierre LeBrun and I did a segment on SportsCentre yesterday where we talked about the possibilities, and we know that Bergevin and Jason Botterill of the Buffalo Sabres are in trade discussions for Ryan O’Reilly. You can assume that Buffalo is shooting for the moon and asking for the third pick overall, which is too steep a price for me – but I can appreciate why Botterill would ask for it. “But when i look at the collection of second-round picks, that’s where it gets interesting. I can tell you there are people around Dallas who think that Max Pacioretty is likely going to be traded. I don’t know that to be true. We’ve speculated on the future of Max Pacioretty for how long now – a couple, three seasons. But is there a way to package a collection of picks, maybe an asset beyond Pacioretty, that closes that deal on Ryan O’Reilly. “Because when I look at the potential of available centers – veteran players, players that can step up into your lineup under contract – I don’t see it. There aren’t that many. And I wouldn’t call Ryan O’Reilly a No. 1 center in the National Hockey League, but he’s at least a No. 2 and in Montreal he could be a No. 1.” The Canadiens have four second-round picks (35, 38, 56, 62) this weekend, which could certainly become prime trade assets. Quote
bunomatic Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 If we're trading ROR I don't want to wait for 2nd round picks to develop. Give me # 3 overall or give me nothin. Quote
Eleven Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 If we're trading ROR I don't want to wait for 2nd round picks to develop. Give me # 3 overall or give me nothin. I don't want to wait for #3 overall to develop, either. Quote
Brawndo Posted June 21, 2018 Author Report Posted June 21, 2018 Agreed. Per LeBrun and Dreger, Botterill will only trade him for an excellent return or he is perfectly happy with him playing for the Sabres next season. Let’s hope Botterill’s Idea of an excellent return matches ours Quote
Sabel79 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 ROR aside, if Bergevin doesn't trade down somehow and drafts Kotkaniemi at 3... it'd be a very Bergevin thing to do. Quote
WildCard Posted June 21, 2018 Report Posted June 21, 2018 I don't want to wait for #3 overall to develop, either.At least with that you can flip it. Plus we would have an incredible young core of Dahlin Eichel Reinhart #3 and Mittelstadt Quote
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