Trade Speculation and Rumors 2018-19

[LGR4GM]

We are not trading for Patrick Kane. This is a recording. 

[MakeSabresGrr8Again]

1 hour ago, Weave said:

 

Not just simpler, but addresses the most pressing need, 2C.  Our wings are fine.  They just need more than one center on the team.

You're right on the 2C but I think we could use an upgrade or two on the wing.

[nfreeman]

7 hours ago, Brawndo said:

Friedman on the Possibility of the Sabres moving a 1st Round Pick 

https://www.nicholsonhockey.com/archives/2018/12/28/friedman-teams-reluctant-to-trade-first-round-picks

Not surprising but no fun either.

[Scottysabres]

37 minutes ago, nfreeman said:

Not surprising but no fun either.

I was hoping Botterill would go the controlled player route. But yea, deadline day may fizzle for entertainment.

[Brawndo]

I wonder how much Ryan Dzingel would cost from Ottawa?

Duchene or Kevin Hayes would be excellent 2C for the Sabres, but their deadline price will be astronomical. But I would circle back around to them on July 1st to see what there ask is. 

Save the firsts for a hockey trade for a team controlled asset. 

[thewookie1]

I've had a few good discussions with an Edmonton fan

 

Okposo

Sobotka (1.5mil retained)

2020 4th

 

for

Spooner

Sekera

[Sabres Fan in NS]

14 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

I've had a few good discussions with an Edmonton fan

 

Okposo

Sobotka (1.5mil retained)

2020 4th

 

for

Spooner

Sekera

I think that works, but I'm no expert.

[MakeSabresGrr8Again]

1 hour ago, thewookie1 said:

I've had a few good discussions with an Edmonton fan

 

Okposo

Sobotka (1.5mil retained)

2020 4th

 

for

Spooner

Sekera

Spooner and Sobotka have exact same numbers this season (bad). Spooner has more upside but we thought Vlad would also be more useful than he's been.

You do know that Sekera hasn't played a game yet this year. He only played 36 games last year. He might be playing again sometime in the new year. Injuries have been knee (last year) and achilles (this year).

I'd definitely have to say no to this deal.

[inkman]

10 minutes ago, MakeSabresGrr8Again said:

Spooner and Sobotka have exact same numbers this season (bad). Spooner has more upside but we thought Vlad would also be more useful than he's been.

You do know that Sekera hasn't played a game yet this year. He only played 36 games last year. He might be playing again sometime in the new year. Injuries have been knee (last year) and achilles (this year).

I'd definitely have to say no to this deal.

Unloading 4 years of a bad Okposo contract for 2 years of a bad Sekera contract?  Sign me up.

[thewookie1]

4 minutes ago, inkman said:

Unloading 4 years of a bad Okposo contract for 2 years of a bad Sekera contract?  Sign me up.

 

That's what I was looking at, Sekera is a competent Dman or a LTIR candidate with fewer years on his contract.

Spooner has potential, but is regardless a shorter contract than Okposo

 

I just wish Okposo could take a pay-cut because he seems like a great guy. 

[MakeSabresGrr8Again]

44 minutes ago, inkman said:

Unloading 4 years of a bad Okposo contract for 2 years of a bad Sekera contract?  Sign me up.

The deal as a whole only saves us about $2M. I'm assuming the retaing $1.5M on Sobotka is per year (3M total) if not then it's about $3.5M saved. 

It's not just unloading  1-for-1. You also have to pay Spooner and retain on Sobotka.

[LGR4GM]

I'd sit tight if I were Botterill. We're a solid offseason away from being where we want without dumping valuable assets for a short term fix. 

[Wyldnwoody44]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

I'd sit tight if I were Botterill. We're a solid offseason away from being where we want without dumping valuable assets for a short term fix. 

I'd agree with this, however if we need to drop a pick to dump KO, I'd be all for that, as I believe he will become a hindrance very soon (if not already) 

[LGR4GM]

14 minutes ago, Wyldnwoody44 said:

I'd agree with this, however if we need to drop a pick to dump KO, I'd be all for that, as I believe he will become a hindrance very soon (if not already) 

What pick? A 4th, sure. A 1st, no freaking way. 

[thewookie1]

If my trade were to occur, one thing I’d be gunning for is signing Skinner at 8.5 or less for 6/7 years and later signing Mark Stone for 8.5 mil for 7 years. 

Skinner - Eichel - Reinhart 

Sheary - Mitts - Stone

Wilson - Spooner - Thompson 

Girgs - Larsson - Erod 

 

Dahlin - Bogo

McCabe - Risto

Scandella/Sekera - Pilut/Nelson

 

 

[LGR4GM]

Pilut is then 3rd pairing. Sekera will not ever be traded 4. Sekera is a 32yr old LHD. He'd be 5th on the depth chart on the left. It's a pointless trade to acquire him. 

[Sabres Fan in NS]

Sekera is only 32?  I thought he would be 40+ by now.  Seems like forever ago he was a Sabre.

[Broken Ankles]

2 hours ago, thewookie1 said:

If my trade were to occur, one thing I’d be gunning for is signing Skinner at 8.5 or less for 6/7 years and later signing Mark Stone for 8.5 mil for 7 years. 

Skinner - Eichel - Reinhart 

Sheary - Mitts - Stone

Wilson - Spooner - Thompson 

Girgs - Larsson - Erod 

 

Dahlin - Bogo

McCabe - Risto

Scandella/Sekera - Pilut/Nelson

 

 

Why pay $8.5m to a second line RW when you have him paired with Kevin McAllister aka The Child Center?  The lack of production from Pommers, Sheary, KO and Tage is that they don’t have good Centermen like Jack to dominate and control the play.   Adding Mark Stone will provide instant secondary scoring.   Spend 5-6M on an adult 2C and the production will follow.

[Brawndo]

KO has compliance buyout written all over him in the next CBA.

No one is taking that contract unless a high pick or a high end prospect is going back with it. As Liger said that’s a non starter. 

[Scottysabres]

1 hour ago, Brawndo said:

KO has compliance buyout written all over him in the next CBA.

No one is taking that contract unless a high pick or a high end prospect is going back with it. As Liger said that’s a non starter. 

Agreed. And I'd gladly pay the pick price if it were in a package for a player of Seguin's caliber.

[Pimlach]

7 hours ago, inkman said:

Unloading 4 years of a bad Okposo contract for 2 years of a bad Sekera contract?  Sign me up.

Are we talking Sa-Care-a or Sah-Kah-RAH ??

[inkman]

1 minute ago, Pimlach said:

Are we talking Sa-Care-a or Sah-Kah-RAH ??

I thought it was sec-er-uh.  I liked Reggie. 

[Doohicksie]

2 hours ago, Pimlach said:

Are we talking Sa-Care-a or Sah-Kah-RAH ??

If he comes back here I guarantee RJ calls him Sa-Care-a.

[Brawndo]

 

[inkman]

27 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

 

Manning seems rather ordinary and Caligula has been disappointment.