WildCard Posted December 12, 2018 Report Posted December 12, 2018 Good. With our prospect state, potential contracts coming up, and expansion draft, those three 1sts could be insanely valuable for us 2 Quote
LGR4GM Posted December 12, 2018 Report Posted December 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, Brawndo said: From 31 Thoughts with Friedman today. Botterill will not trade any of the firsts for rentals. Smart move, he recognizes where the team is Botterill gets it. Quote
Taro T Posted December 12, 2018 Report Posted December 12, 2018 32 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Botterill gets it. That he does. Quote
Mustache of God Posted December 12, 2018 Report Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Brawndo said: From 31 Thoughts with Friedman today. Botterill will not trade any of the firsts for rentals. Smart move, he recognizes where the team is Thats reassuring to hear. GMTM would trade all 4 in a heartbeat. Quote
shrader Posted December 12, 2018 Report Posted December 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, Mustache of God said: Thats reassuring to hear. GMTM would trade all 4 in a heartbeat. He did trade them, but none were rentals. Each deal was for someone with term remaining on their contracts. So from that perspective, it's no different than the current comment about Botterill and rentals. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted December 12, 2018 Report Posted December 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, Mustache of God said: Thats reassuring to hear. GMTM would trade all 4 in a heartbeat. They’d have already been traded for Brandon Saad. How do we get the 2nd line center we need? Will Chicago trade Anisimov? Is it time to try to get Sam Bennett? Quote
Scottysabres Posted December 12, 2018 Report Posted December 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: They’d have already been traded for Brandon Saad. How do we get the 2nd line center we need? Will Chicago trade Anisimov? Is it time to try to get Sam Bennett? Girgensons ? Quote
Brawndo Posted December 12, 2018 Author Report Posted December 12, 2018 This might have been from his radio appearance today 1 Quote
darksabre Posted December 12, 2018 Report Posted December 12, 2018 Somewhere Ryan O'Reilly is blaming himself for this. 6 Quote
WildCard Posted December 12, 2018 Report Posted December 12, 2018 Blues fire sale? Everything's coming up Buffalo Quote
Brawndo Posted December 12, 2018 Author Report Posted December 12, 2018 https://www.bardown.com/blues-insider-drops-surprising-name-that-could-be-traded-from-st-louis-this-season-1.1225317 Confirmed Steen, Tarasenko and Pietrangelo mentioned Quote
WildCard Posted December 12, 2018 Report Posted December 12, 2018 Buy cheap on Parayko? I doubt they move Thomas or Kyrou, and Parayko is having a rough year Quote
nfreeman Posted December 12, 2018 Report Posted December 12, 2018 Tarasenko is a RW, age 26, with 4 more years on his contract after this year at a $7.5MM cap hit. In his last 4 seasons, he has 37, 40, 39 and 33 goals. Proposal: KO, Nylander, Guhle, McCabe and the 2 worst first-rounders the Sabres have in the next 2 years for Tarasenko. Does JB say no? Does Armstrong? (I think Armstrong says no.) Quote
thewookie1 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Posted December 12, 2018 I actually wouldn't be willing to part with so many assets and I doubt they'd want Okposo 1 Quote
Carmel Corn Posted December 12, 2018 Report Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, WildCard said: Blues fire sale? Everything's coming up Buffalo Not sure I feel the same way. I'd be happy if they got a strong 2C....but I get the feeling St. Louis is going for a lottery pick, so we miss out on next drafts #1 rounder from them. Quote
thewookie1 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Posted December 12, 2018 On the Tarasenko front, I'd use their 1st to strong arm them into a cheaper price. After all, do you really think St. Louis wants to run into Ottawa's predicament? Quote
pi2000 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 Thompson, Sobotka, Berglund and a 1st for O'Reilly 1 3 Quote
Taro T Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, pi2000 said: Thompson, Sobotka, Berglund and a 1st for O'Reilly Provided the 1st is lottery protected. ? For at least 2 seasons. Quote
Scottysabres Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 50 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: On the Tarasenko front, I'd use their 1st to strong arm them into a cheaper price. After all, do you really think St. Louis wants to run into Ottawa's predicament? 1 hour ago, nfreeman said: Tarasenko is a RW, age 26, with 4 more years on his contract after this year at a $7.5MM cap hit. In his last 4 seasons, he has 37, 40, 39 and 33 goals. Proposal: KO, Nylander, Guhle, McCabe and the 2 worst first-rounders the Sabres have in the next 2 years for Tarasenko. Does JB say no? Does Armstrong? (I think Armstrong says no.) As much as I like Tarasenko, this team needs a 2nd line center, and not a middle of the pack or even a slightly above average middle of the pack center. If I'm Botterill, as I watch this unfold, I hope other teams come in to scoop up Tarasenko and another one of their impact players, then use that 2020 1st (which it would most likely be) to seal a deal for a real impact 2nd line center. Having a 1 - 2 punch, a la the Leafs, would certainly be entertaining. Love him or Hate him, ROR is the gift that appears to just keep on giving. Interesting times to be sure. Quote
dudacek Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 Not sure why he is sucking this year, but Tarasenko is better than Skinner. I’d rather pay Tarasenko $7.5 for four than Skinner that much for 8. Depends on what we could get for Skinner and what Tarasenko would cost. Vlad would not be cheap. Leafs need to move for Parayko or Pietrangelo. Quote
Thorner Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 11 hours ago, Brawndo said: From 31 Thoughts with Friedman today. Botterill will not trade any of the firsts for rentals. Smart move, he recognizes where the team is This is kind of ambiguous though, no? Is it saying we won't trade any firsts for rentals, or won't trade for rentals at all? Almost sounds like the latter. Which I think would be wrong stance to take. Quote
Marions Piazza Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 11 hours ago, dudacek said: Not sure why he is sucking this year, but Tarasenko is better than Skinner. I’d rather pay Tarasenko $7.5 for four than Skinner that much for 8. Depends on what we could get for Skinner and what Tarasenko would cost. Vlad would not be cheap. Leafs need to move for Parayko or Pietrangelo. this is a tough call, Skinner and Eichel already have some massive chemistry, there's no guarantee that Tarasenko would have the same with Eichel. Skinner and Eichel already work well and it's proven, but, i get your thoughts on contract length as well. Quote
Marions Piazza Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, nfreeman said: Tarasenko is a RW, age 26, with 4 more years on his contract after this year at a $7.5MM cap hit. In his last 4 seasons, he has 37, 40, 39 and 33 goals. Proposal: KO, Nylander, Guhle, McCabe and the 2 worst first-rounders the Sabres have in the next 2 years for Tarasenko. Does JB say no? Does Armstrong? (I think Armstrong says no.) IMHO, that's way too much to give up. History has shown us what happens when you deplete your defensive depth (06 season playoffs), McCabe being out has been really bad for us too. they wouldn't take KO either, not a chance Edited December 13, 2018 by Marions Piazza Quote
shrader Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 7 hours ago, Thorny said: This is kind of ambiguous though, no? Is it saying we won't trade any firsts for rentals, or won't trade for rentals at all? Almost sounds like the latter. Which I think would be wrong stance to take. First round picks don't really go for rentals all that often anymore anyway. It has to be a fairly high end player to grab that return, and even then, you may still very well be looking at a deal where it's conditioned on re-signing. When it comes to the Sabres picks, I feel like the only one that could be in play would be their own. The San Jose and St Louis picks are still tied up in their conditions, so it's tough to trade something that isn't yet concrete. Quote
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