SDS Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, Weave said: No more rookie NHL head coaches, please. Fans go back and forth between the has-beens and the up and coming new superstars. Every time one is fired the other one is desired. 2 Quote
Radar Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 I think Housley if he's replaced it needs to be someone with a head coaching track record. In fact both the Bills and Sabres also could use experienced people as presidents overseeing the overall organizations. Pegulas do not have the experience required. 1 Quote
Weave Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, SDS said: Fans go back and forth between the has-beens and the up and coming new superstars. Every time one is fired the other one is desired. IMO the last thing a team with a young core needs is rook behind the bench. It might make sense with a more veteran squad to bring in fresh ideas because the vets on the ice can provide good feedback to the coach regarding what will/won't work. A rookie coach won't get that much needed benefit from a young team. Quote
WildCard Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 We're gonna have to fire this guy at the end of the season. And then we're gonna have to pray we get it right the next time. Then that season will be another 'system building system', and then we might be good. See you guys in 2020 3 Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 20 minutes ago, Weave said: IMO the last thing a team with a young core needs is rook behind the bench. It might make sense with a more veteran squad to bring in fresh ideas because the vets on the ice can provide good feedback to the coach regarding what will/won't work. A rookie coach won't get that much needed benefit from a young team. If the rookie coach is great, who cares? I'd hate to pass up on the NHL's version of Sean McVay or Doug Pedersen just because they haven't been head coaches before. Quote
MODO Hockey Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, inkman said: Housley didn't get the nickname Phyllis because of his home decorating. He made Marc Andre Gragnani look like Scott Stevens. I actually think he did get that name from decorating his home, with flowerpower wallpaper and ***** Quote
darksabre Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 25 minutes ago, WildCard said: We're gonna have to fire this guy at the end of the season. And then we're gonna have to pray we get it right the next time. Then that season will be another 'system building system', and then we might be good. See you guys in 2020 Welp, if some people get what they want, which is the ascension of Chris Taylor, then the system will already be in place. Since in theory the Amerks are running the same one. 1 Quote
Stoner Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 51 minutes ago, darksabre said: Welp, if some people get what they want, which is the ascension of Chris Taylor, then the system will already be in place. Since in theory the Amerks are running the same one. I always wonder how many coaches a GM gets to hire. If Phil was a swing and a miss, and wasn't Terry's hire, then where does that leave Botterill? I think it leaves him in the GM seat to try again, because this situation is different than last time. If we're to believe Terry, he wasn't overly involved in hiring Murray. But he sure as hell told us he was going to be all-in on hiring his replacement. Terry has a lot invested in Botterill. I don't think he can fire ANOTHER GM so soon. That said, if he did, and if he finally hired a strong hockey president and went back to drilling wells full-time, it would be the best thing that could happen to Sabres hockey since Slinky was in goal. Again, not gonna happen. Terry will double down on Botterill and maybe on his involvement. #fourminutesclosertolunchtime Quote
Randall Flagg Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, WildCard said: We fvcking suck What TOI are they counting and why is ours less than half of like everyone else's Quote
WildCard Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, Randall Flagg said: What TOI are they counting and why is ours less than half of like everyone else's Good question. Maybe it's in close/tied games? Quote
darksabre Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: What TOI are they counting and why is ours less than half of like everyone else's It's in White's first tweet. Shot share at 5 v 5 when it's a 1 goal game. 1 Quote
Randall Flagg Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, WildCard said: Good question. Maybe it's in close/tied games? That would honestly make so much sense lol We STILL haven't had one of those 3-4 and all seven games had the winner picked by a multi-goal lead before the halfway point Quote
darksabre Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 So not only are we never close, when we are we're giving up way too many shots and shooting way too little. Basically, we suck. Quote
WildCard Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, darksabre said: It's in White's first tweet. Shot share at 5 v 5 when it's a 1 goal game. Boom called it Just now, darksabre said: So not only are we never close, when we are we're giving up way too many shots and shooting way too little. Basically, we suck. As is tradition Quote
Randall Flagg Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 It's as if the low event players we added stopped being good at the defensive half of being low event Quote
pi2000 Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: It's as if the low event players we added stopped being good at the defensive half of being low event That's 100% coaching. People will be surprised how much better these guys play with a better head coach. 1 Quote
WildCard Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, pi2000 said: That's 100% coaching. People will be surprised how much better these guys play with a better head coach. At this point I really don't think I will be. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, pi2000 said: That's 100% coaching. People will be surprised how much better these guys play with a better head coach. It's certainly not 100% on coaching if our vet cap dumps are looking as bad as they sometimes did last year and it's hurting us haha There could very well be elements of bad coaching elsewhere, I'm not trying to argue that. Quote
Jsixspd Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) Enough important stats are already worst or near worst, in NHL that Housley should be on the hot seat in a week or two. After all, it's essentially a continuation of what we saw all last season, which was supposedly an 'evaluation' season for both Beane and Housley. Well, evaluation is over - time to piss or get off the pot. 20 consecutive PPs in 3 games - scoreless. After going on 8 years of this team going down the toilet since the Pegulas took over, it's very hard to be patient. But the other issue with mid-season replacement - no sense in canning him if we don't have a better option. Do we need another Ron Rolston? Edited October 19, 2018 by Jsixspd Quote
pi2000 Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, Jsixspd said: Enough important stats are already worst or near worst, in NHL that Housley should be on the hot seat in a week or two. After all, it's essentially a continuation of what we saw all last season, which was supposedly an 'evaluation' season for both Beane and Housley. Well, evaluation is over - time to piss or get off the pot. 20 consecutive PPs in 3 games - scoreless. After going on 8 years of this team going down the toilet since the Pegulas took over, it's very hard to be patient. But the other issue with mid-season replacement - no sense in canning him if we don't have a better option. Do we need another Ron Rolston? I'll preface this by saying I think its still too soon to fire Housley. IMO Dave Tippett would do wonders for this group. He's stern, demanding and won't flinch at benching guys. His teams have always played hard for him and he has over 1000 games under his belt as head coach, winning the Jack Adams award in 2010. The clock may be ticking tho as he's been hired as an advisor for the Seattle group. Quote
LGR4GM Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 Who's Pittsburgh got that can coach? The One Buffalo MO is to hire a guy from an organization who then brings in a bunch of guys from that same organization so we can get some group think going. Quote
darksabre Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Who's Pittsburgh got that can coach? The One Buffalo MO is to hire a guy from an organization who then brings in a bunch of guys from that same organization so we can get some group think going. We already got him. He's in Rochester. Quote
LGR4GM Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 24 minutes ago, darksabre said: We already got him. He's in Rochester. Well there we go. Quote
Stoner Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Jsixspd said: But the other issue with mid-season replacement - no sense in canning him if we don't have a better option. Do we need another Ron Rolston? Eleven... gray and blond and pasty white courtesy phone... Eleven... Quote
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