McCabe has Shoulder Surgery

[Brawndo]

Out 4-6 Months per Sabres

[LTS]

Welcome to the Glass Menagerie.

[Brawndo]

 

#Sabres  GM Jason Botterill: “Jake has been progressing well in his recovery from his previous injury, but we decided that this was a good opportunity to take care of a problem that he has been dealing with for a while."

 

Sounds like a separate injury from the hand

[Taro T]

Out 4-6 Months per Sabres

Didn't it look more like a hand when he left midgame?

 

Maybe he's been bothered by a shoulder most of the season & that's why he's looked so bad so ofter this year? (Purely speculating there.)

#Sabres  GM Jason Botterill: “Jake has been progressing well in his recovery from his previous injury, but we decided that this was a good opportunity to take care of a problem that he has been dealing with for a while."

Sounds like a separate injury from the hand

Dayum. You quick. ;)

[Huckleberry]

#Sabres  GM Jason Botterill: “Jake has been progressing well in his recovery from his previous injury, but we decided that this was a good opportunity to take care of a problem that he has been dealing with for a while."

 

Sounds like a separate injury from the hand

 

Good choice, season is lost get everyone you want ready for next one.

[LTS]

This is why Housley kept shouldering the blame for their performance?  He couldn't put it on McCabe's shoulders.

 

I wonder if the whole team needs surgery.

[That Aud Smell]

Maybe he's been bothered by a shoulder most of the season & that's why he's looked so bad so ofter this year? (Purely speculating there.)

 

It would help explain why he went from looking the part of a 4/5 NHL d-man to looking like a beer leaguer.

[Doohicksie]

This is why Housley kept shouldering the blame for their performance?  He couldn't put it on McCabe's shoulders.

 

I see what you did there.  ;)

[pi2000]

It would help explain why he went from looking the part of a 4/5 NHL d-man to looking like a beer leaguer.

 

i thought he looked great the last couple weeks he played.

 

  first 16 weeks?   yeah beer league at best

[Mustache of God]

So how's our defense look now?

 

Risto- Scandella

Gorges - Nelson

Baloo - Antipin

 

Is it time to call up Guhle or probably Tennyson?

 

also: woof.

Edited February 20, 2018 by Mustasch av gud

[pi2000]

So how's our defense look now?

 

Risto- Scandella

Gorges - Nelson

Baloo - Antipin

 

Is it time to call up Guhle or probably Tennyson?

 

also: woof.

 

it's time to watch the world burn

[nfreeman]

Kinda feels like a tanking move.

[darksabre]

Kinda feels like a tanking move.

Or a cap management move...

[PalmTreeMafia]

So how's our defense look now?

 

Risto- Scandella

Gorges - Nelson

Baloo - Antipin

 

Is it time to call up Guhle or probably Tennyson?

 

also: woof.

 

Nah, there's nothing any other defenseman in the system can do to help at this point. Risto and Scandella are a solid #2 pair on a good team. Nelson and Antipin are solid 3rd pair guys. Beauloeauoeuou is borderline NHL material. Gorges should be retired. So we're missing two top-pair NHL defensemen.

[Gramps]

Nah, there's nothing any other defenseman in the system can do to help at this point. Risto and Scandella are a solid #2 pair on a good team. Nelson and Antipin are solid 3rd pair guys. Beauloeauoeuou is borderline NHL material. Gorges should be retired. So we're missing two top-pair NHL defensemen.

 

Bogosian is supposed to be a #1 - McCabe 3rd pair

[North Buffalo]

Nah, there's nothing any other defenseman in the system can do to help at this point. Risto and Scandella are a solid #2 pair on a good team. Nelson and Antipin are solid 3rd pair guys. Beauloeauoeuou is borderline NHL material. Gorges should be retired. So we're missing two top-pair NHL defensemen.

And some of you want to fire Housley with this D lineup? If Sabres can draft Dhalin and get Ghule ready maybe next year they will be close to an NHL D... not on offense but at least D

[Thorner]

Kinda feels like a tanking move.

Interesting. Could be, depending on the actual time frame of the injury. They said 4-6 months. Most likely that’s legitimate, and shutting McCabe down makes sense as, if it takes the full 6 months, shutting him down now ensures he’s back for next season.

 

My question is, why didn’t they elect to proceed with the surgery earlier, at the time of the hand injury? Looks like maybe they saw it as a 4 month recovery time for the shoulder, that he could come back from the hand, finish the season, then have the shoulder surgery in April, making it back for camp.

 

It’s impossible to know either way. I wouldn’t call it tanking per se, but potentially a move by Botterill that says, “he could come back this year, but what’s the point, let’s save McCabe the struggle and help ensure a higher pick”.

 

If they shut Eichel down, it’s smelling like a mini-tank.

[MattPie]

Bogosian is supposed to be a #1 - McCabe 3rd pair

 

Are there people that think Bogo is a first-pair D?

[North Buffalo]

Any word on what kind ac joint or something else?

[Gramps]

Are there people that think Bogo is a first-pair D?

 

Wasn't he 1st pair Winnipeg when we got him ? 

[DarthEbriate]

Are there people that think Bogo is a first-pair D?

By salary and draft-day potential, sure.

 

By the eye test and career stats: no.

Legit first-pair D don't build fully-stocked bunkers.

(His best season statistically was 2011-12 with 5-25-30 at 23 min/gm. Other than that 22 min/gm and <5 goals, <20 assists per season. 2nd-pairing stay-at-home guy, despite his decent speed.)

[Thorner]

By salary and draft-day potential, sure.

 

By the eye test and career stats: no.

Legit first-pair D don't build fully-stocked bunkers.

(His best season statistically was 2011-12 with 5-25-30 at 23 min/gm. Other than that 22 min/gm and <5 goals, <20 assists per season. 2nd-pairing stay-at-home guy, despite his decent speed.)

I see his skill set better suited to 3rd pair, but either way, with his proclivity to be hurt all the time, 3rd pairing is the max he should be penciled in for/counted on for the final 2 years of his god-awful contract.

[DarthEbriate]

I see his skill set better suited to 3rd pair, but either way, with his proclivity to be hurt all the time, 3rd pairing is the max he should be penciled in for/counted on for the final 2 years of his god-awful contract.

Agreed. I had listed his career numbers -- 22 min/night is his average, so... 2nd pairing with plenty of PK has been his usage.

[Taro T]

I see his skill set better suited to 3rd pair, but either way, with his proclivity to be hurt all the time, 3rd pairing is the max he should be penciled in for/counted on for the final 2 years of his god-awful contract.

Would say that in an ideal world where he plays 76+ games/ season, he is a 2nd pairing D-man. But we are absolutely in agreement that in THIS world, he can NOT be pencilled in above 5, if he's even pencilled in at all. He can't be counted on for more than 30 (yes, he's almost always played more than that, but an injury-prone D-man isn't going to start playing MORE games than he has historically played and likely will play significantly less as injuries become chronic).

 

Losing the guy that was pencilled in at 3 severely hampered this squad out of the gate.

[nfreeman]

Would say that in an ideal world where he plays 76+ games/ season, he is a 2nd pairing D-man. But we are absolutely in agreement that in THIS world, he can NOT be pencilled in above 5, if he's even pencilled in at all. He can't be counted on for more than 30 (yes, he's almost always played more than that, but an injury-prone D-man isn't going to start playing MORE games than he has historically played and likely will play significantly less as injuries become chronic).

 

Losing the guy that was pencilled in at 3 severely hampered this squad out of the gate.

 

And, it must be said, his injury history has turned him from being an asset obtained in the Kane trade to being part of the price GMTM had to pay to get Kane.