Randall Flagg Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: The Bills should be looking to draft Georgia Center Lamont Gaillard in the upcoming draft. That would be someone I would target to help fix that offensive line. This is his final year and he's polished and good. Where are you thinking he'll go? Quote
LGR4GM Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Randall Flagg said: Where are you thinking he'll go? I haven't looked at the team needs and the NFL draft rankings so unsure but probably 2nd round. I suppose he could slide to the 3rd. I just think he is an underrated player that would help the center of that bills line. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, PASabreFan said: I think women here should speak up too if it bothers them. It would certainly carry a lot more weight. I think it's just a stupid relic of a joke, like golfers who hit a short drive and hear someone say, "Does your husband play?" Pretty harmless stuff. Is the idea that women are somehow weak really still a thing? I thought that went out with bell bottoms. A lot bigger fish to fry, IMHO, like the homophobia in sports and society in general. Actually, the research on the matter suggests precisely the opposite. And it's easy to say it's pretty harmless when you're not the subject of it. 1 1 Quote
Randall Flagg Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: I haven't looked at the team needs and the NFL draft rankings so unsure but probably 2nd round. I suppose he could slide to the 3rd. I just think he is an underrated player that would help the center of that bills line. I'd be down to go after him. I'd like a whole bunch of our picks to be OL and offensive skill players Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: The Bills should be looking to draft Georgia Center Lamont Gaillard in the upcoming draft. That would be someone I would target to help fix that offensive line. This is his final year and he's polished and good. Breaking News: Liger likes player from Georgia. More at 11. ? 1 Quote
Hoss Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: The Bills should be looking to draft Georgia Center Lamont Gaillard in the upcoming draft. That would be someone I would target to help fix that offensive line. This is his final year and he's polished and good. Looking at a few sites with current draft rankings he doesn’t appear on any lists Quote
LGR4GM Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hoss said: Looking at a few sites with current draft rankings he doesn’t appear on any lists Well maybe we can scoop him in the 4th then. Kids good. I don't love Georgia's offensive line but he stands out to me. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 Broncos trade Demaryius Thomas and a 7th to Houston for a 4th. Quote
Hoss Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 It’s definitely time to start zeroing in on some draft talk, though. The team will hopefully land in the top five. This draft doesn’t exactly have a big list of guys at the top that fit needs, though. They need four guys on the offensive line, at least two WRs but really just five or six would be nice, maybe a TE (still fine with Clay), a strong pass rusher, a DT, another linebacker and maybe another corner. That’s a TON. A lot of that will come in free agency. WR and OL are probably the priority. AJ Brown at Ole Miss is the big fish WR in the draft. Probably worth a top 10 pick for sure. There’s some strong depth at OT/OG in this draft so that’s a spot they should probably be targeting on day two. Guys like Greg Little (Ole Miss), Trey Adams (Washington), Jonah Williams (Bama) and Jawaan Taylor (Florida) are just a handful of the probably eight or so guys that are looking likely to go in rounds one to three. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 Golden Tate to the Eagles for a 3rd. I wouldn't have done this, given the expiring contract. But I'd have been l over that Thomas trade. Quote
LGR4GM Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) Also on the offensive line I like Cody Ford (G) and Andre Dillard (OT). We can easily draft all 3 this year. Edited October 30, 2018 by LGR4GM Quote
WildCard Posted October 30, 2018 Author Report Posted October 30, 2018 Demarius Thomas traded to the Texans Quote
darksabre Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 Really wish the Bills would trade McCoy. Quote
ubkev Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, darksabre said: Really wish the Bills would trade McCoy. They ain't gonna do *****! Quote
LGR4GM Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Hoss said: It’s definitely time to start zeroing in on some draft talk, though. The team will hopefully land in the top five. This draft doesn’t exactly have a big list of guys at the top that fit needs, though. They need four guys on the offensive line, at least two WRs but really just five or six would be nice, maybe a TE (still fine with Clay), a strong pass rusher, a DT, another linebacker and maybe another corner. That’s a TON. A lot of that will come in free agency. WR and OL are probably the priority. AJ Brown at Ole Miss is the big fish WR in the draft. Probably worth a top 10 pick for sure. There’s some strong depth at OT/OG in this draft so that’s a spot they should probably be targeting on day two. Guys like Greg Little (Ole Miss), Trey Adams (Washington), Jonah Williams (Bama) and Jawaan Taylor (Florida) are just a handful of the probably eight or so guys that are looking likely to go in rounds one to three. He won't be available but I would draft Robert Okwuebugnum (TE) in the 2nd if possible. That gives you another good player for your rookie QB to rely on. Also Zach Allen (DE) out of Boston College would be someone we could take later in the first. Edited October 30, 2018 by LGR4GM Quote
Hoss Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: He won't be available but I would draft Robert Okwuebugnum (TE) in the 2nd if possible. That gives you another good player for your rookie QB to rely on. Also Zach Allen (DE) out of Boston College would be someone we could take later in the first. I would be frustrated if we took a TE over other needs. Clay might be gone but we don’t need the money. I see no reason to force another hole when Clay is an average tight end. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, darksabre said: Really wish the Bills would trade McCoy. Not sure it was possible, but pulling off the Thomas trade then moving McCoy to recoup the 4th would have been a petty appealing set of moves to me. Quote
Indabuff Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, ubkev said: They ain't gonna do *****! I don't trust this management anymore. Any move they make (or don't make) feels like it will be the wrong one. Quote
Indabuff Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 Actually I would approve if they traded for the entire Rams or Chiefs roster and personnel. Quote
Hoss Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 31 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Not sure it was possible, but pulling off the Thomas trade then moving McCoy to recoup the 4th would have been a petty appealing set of moves to me. This team needs a lot but an expensive 31 year old WR isn’t really one of them. Trading away draft picks damn sure isn’t one of them. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Hoss said: This team needs a lot but an expensive 31 year old WR isn’t really one of them. Trading away draft picks damn sure isn’t one of them. Well, in my scenario, we're not actually giving up a pick, just moving backwards in the 4th (though I would give up a 4th). Rookie WRs, even the great ones, usually have an adjustment period and often don't make a huge impact until year 2. We can't just draft our way to a good offense next season. We're going to need to spend some money on veteran help at the position, and Thomas has the advantage of not needing to commit long term, even if he's expensive for a season. He also has the advantage of being under contract, because I don't think convincing a free agent WR to sign here is going to be easy. Quote
Hoss Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Well, in my scenario, we're not actually giving up a pick, just moving backwards in the 4th (though I would give up a 4th). Rookie WRs, even the great ones, usually have an adjustment period and often don't make a huge impact until year 2. We can't just draft our way to a good offense next season. We're going to need to spend some money on veteran help at the position, and Thomas has the advantage of not needing to commit long term, even if he's expensive for a season. He also has the advantage of being under contract, because I don't think convincing a free agent WR to sign here is going to be easy. Thinking trading away a fourth then acquiring another one with a separate asset isn’t giving up a pick is bad management. You are giving up the pick, no matter how you slice it. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, Hoss said: Thinking trading away a fourth then acquiring another one with a separate asset isn’t giving up a pick is bad management. You are giving up the pick, no matter how you slice it. Flipping McCoy into Thomas while moving down in the 4th and adding a 7th isn't giving up a pick. Literally. It's not. Semantics aside, you could address the substance of my position. We're not drafting our way to a strong WR corps next year, and the contract it'll take to get an established free agent to sign here won't be pretty. There's value in getting a vet WR who can still play on a contract. Quote
Hoss Posted October 30, 2018 Report Posted October 30, 2018 18 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Flipping McCoy into Thomas while moving down in the 4th and adding a 7th isn't giving up a pick. Literally. It's not. Semantics aside, you could address the substance of my position. We're not drafting our way to a strong WR corps next year, and the contract it'll take to get an established free agent to sign here won't be pretty. There's value in getting a vet WR who can still play on a contract. We’re not in a position to add a guy like Thomas nor is there any urgency to do so before today’s deadline. They just signed Pryor which is a fine move that costs nothing. The team will have plenty of options to add to the WR corps this offseason. Quote
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