Randall Flagg Posted June 13, 2018 Report Posted June 13, 2018 Our ludicrously lucky and amazing and historic turnover differential was 7th in the league, 8 net turnovers behind the league leader. Our ratio was ranked the same as the season before, one higher than the season before that, one lower than the season before that. It was 6 net turnovers behind the 90 SB team, 12 turnovers behind the 98 team, which recovered 25 fumbles to the opponent's 8, it was 5 net turnovers behind the 91 SB team, one behind the 92 SB team, and 27 net turnovers behind the 93 SB team, which recovered 33 fumbles to the opponents' 11. It was behind the vaunted 2007 7-9 Dick Jauron Bills team's turnover differential. Our turnover differential relative to the rest of the league has been the most consistent thing about the last 4 seasons, ranking 7,7,8,6. We have a ball-hawking secondary, statistically (and advanced-statistically) great at it. I don't see what the hand wringing is about. Quote
Doohicksie Posted June 13, 2018 Report Posted June 13, 2018 I don't know how you do it. Continuous improvement. Seriously. I keep thinking we have a great secondary. We lose one two of those guys out of that squad and the replacements are even better the following year. I think this year will follow that trend. Quote
Wyldnwoody44 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Posted June 13, 2018 I still think Rosen is gonna be way more special Quote
inkman Posted June 13, 2018 Report Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) Our ludicrously lucky and amazing and historic turnover differential was 7th in the league, 8 net turnovers behind the league leader. Our ratio was ranked the same as the season before, one higher than the season before that, one lower than the season before that. It was 6 net turnovers behind the 90 SB team, 12 turnovers behind the 98 team, which recovered 25 fumbles to the opponent's 8, it was 5 net turnovers behind the 91 SB team, one behind the 92 SB team, and 27 net turnovers behind the 93 SB team, which recovered 33 fumbles to the opponents' 11. It was behind the vaunted 2007 7-9 Dick Jauron Bills team's turnover differential. Our turnover differential relative to the rest of the league has been the most consistent thing about the last 4 seasons, ranking 7,7,8,6. We have a ball-hawking secondary, statistically (and advanced-statistically) great at it. I don't see what the hand wringing is about. If they maintained their level all season, it would have been #1 in the league. Nate Peterman did everything he could he turn that around. It was only through the first half of last season. Edited June 13, 2018 by inkman Quote
Randall Flagg Posted June 13, 2018 Report Posted June 13, 2018 If they maintained their level all season, it would have been #1 in the league. Nate Peterman did everything he could he turn that around. It was only through the first half of last season. Sure, but I'd imagine that if they finish about 7th again with relatively similar offensive and defensive numbers, they'll finish around 9-7 again even if the turnover differential was a lot smoother (ie, instead of beating Oakland by 30+ points with like a +5 and losing to SD equally with like a -5, they beat team x by 6 with a +1 and lose another game with a -1) To get into the playoffs they won 3 of their last 4 outside of that fortunate stretch that had them at a record of 5-2. I guess what I'm saying is that while that helped us to a great record, the wins and losses went with the flow of the differential right to the end of the season, and since the net result was perfectly reasonable, there's no reason to believe that another perfectly reasonable turnover differential wouldn't have us in the same ball park it's had us in the last 4 years, which includes seasons from 7-9 to 9-7. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted June 13, 2018 Report Posted June 13, 2018 If they maintained their level all season, it would have been #1 in the league. Nate Peterman did everything he could he turn that around. It was only through the first half of last season. That’s my recollection as well. They wound up “good” on turnovers at season’s end, but they were fairly torrid there in the first half. I also think this year’s D could be better than last year’s — turnovers aside, maybe. Quote
inkman Posted June 13, 2018 Report Posted June 13, 2018 SI has a decent article about it: http://amp.si.com/nfl/2017/11/18/week-11-preview-bills-tyrod-taylor-nathan-peterman-jerry-jones-roger-goodell-case-keenum-teddy-bridgewater Bills (5-4): Let’s be optimistic and say they can get in at 8-8. There’s a 98% chance they’ll be swept by the Patriots and lose at Kansas City, so there’s seven losses. So to have a shot, they need to go 3-1 over the course of a road game against the Chargers, home game against the Colts and a home-and-home against Miami. Here’s the M. Night Shyamalan twist at the end of this tedious exercise: I was dead the whole time.* Also, none of it matters because the Bills are a bad team. Not in the way the Ravens/Dolphins/Raiders are bad, but truly bad. (O.K., the Dolphins are also truly bad). Consider this: Buffalo currently leads the NFL in turnover differential at +11 through nine games. And, incredibly, they have a point differential in the red (-12). It cannot be overstated just how atrocious you have to be to pick up an extra possession per game and still get outscored on the season. Over the previous 20 seasons, 41 teams have posted a turnover differential of +1 per game or better over the course of a season. If rabid squirrels gnawed off both your hands, you’d still have enough fingers to count how many of those 41 teams had a negative point differential that season (and you know damn well that not a jury in the world would convict those squirrels). The Bills are currently on pace to finish the year at +20 in turnover differential. In that 20-year span, 14 teams had done that. The worst point differential among them was the 1999 Chiefs, at +68 (+4.3 per game). The Bills are at -1.3 per game. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted June 13, 2018 Report Posted June 13, 2018 As long as they don't have hiccups like that devastating stretch from 5-2 to 5-5, which seems to have been ironed out since then, I'm not worried at all about how the turnover differential got to where it was. Roughly speaking (heh), it is equally likely that we have a crazy good turnover stretch this coming year as it is that we have a crazy bad one. We happened to have both last year, which basically canceled each other out. Odds are we're decent in turnover differential without the roller coaster of last year to a similar outcome (unless of course someone or some unit blows up in a good or bad way) Quote
Brawndo Posted June 13, 2018 Report Posted June 13, 2018 I still think Rosen is gonna be way more special I concur with this assessment Quote
pi2000 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Posted June 13, 2018 The "offensive" line and lack of WRs will be the undoing of this team.. and the QBs will look like as a result. Quote
Huckleberry Posted June 14, 2018 Report Posted June 14, 2018 From reading the reports it sounds like QB will go from being a questionable position in the Bills offense to being one of the strengths, regardless of who actually starts. Supposedly all three quarterbacks are improving rapidly in running the offense. And in the interview I read, it sounds like Shady has an absolute mancrush on Josh Allen. I think the "it" factor that Allen will bring that Tyrod never did is that Allen will be shown to have that charisma that a natural leader has.... that vibe and swagger that we haven't had at QB since Kelly. I'm also excited about the secondary. I haven't been this geeked up about the Bills going into a new season in I can't remember when. I'm calling it: Bills will sweep the Pats this year. :w00t: Don't know about that, I read here and there McCarron isn't having a good camp, Petermann is having a better one. I think there is a reason they are starting to give Allen first team reps. Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 14, 2018 Report Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) Ranking all 32 NFL Rosters. Part 1. http://lastwordonprofootball.com/2018/06/14/ranking-32-nfl-rosters-part-one/ Edited June 14, 2018 by Skurk Liger Quote
WildCard Posted June 14, 2018 Author Report Posted June 14, 2018 Gonna guess the top 3 are Eagles Vikings Patriots Quote
dudacek Posted June 14, 2018 Report Posted June 14, 2018 Ranking all 32 NFL Rosters. Part 1. http://lastwordonprofootball.com/2018/06/14/ranking-32-nfl-rosters-part-one/ So not a good time to renew my Sunday Ticket? Quote
ubkev Posted June 14, 2018 Report Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) Ranking all 32 NFL Rosters. Part 1. http://lastwordonprofootball.com/2018/06/14/ranking-32-nfl-rosters-part-one/ Look at that, 75% of the AFC East rank from 32, 30 and 28. Tom Brady has had the easiest career in the history of sports. Edited June 14, 2018 by ubkev Quote
inkman Posted June 14, 2018 Report Posted June 14, 2018 Ranking all 32 NFL Rosters. Part 1. http://lastwordonprofootball.com/2018/06/14/ranking-32-nfl-rosters-part-one/ Trust the process :unsure: Quote
ubkev Posted June 18, 2018 Report Posted June 18, 2018 T.O. just ran a 4.43 40 yd dash with Julio Jones timing him. He is 44 years old. That's gotta be better than shooting your age in golf. Wow! https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1008816399920369664?s=19 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted July 10, 2018 Report Posted July 10, 2018 Man, oh man. If true, the guy oughta be in jail ASAP. /Cringes in anticipation of the first OJ Simpson reference. 4 minutes ago, WildCard said: God dammit God dammit, what? The initial and only concern here is whether the charges are true. Quote
WildCard Posted July 10, 2018 Author Report Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, That Aud Smell said: God dammit, what? The initial and only concern here is whether the charges are true. God dammit I don't want it to be true Next time don't jump to conclusions about what someone is upset about in regards to news? Why didn't you ask Flagg what 'Ugh' was about? Quote
shrader Posted July 10, 2018 Report Posted July 10, 2018 So they're cool with him "viciously" beating the kid but draw the line at beating the woman? If it's true, they (not quite sure who "they" are) should have done something far sooner. I can't help but be skeptical, especially when it comes from twitter instead of the police. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted July 10, 2018 Report Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, WildCard said: God dammit I don't want it to be true Next time don't jump to conclusions about what someone is upset about in regards to news? Why didn't you ask Flagg what 'Ugh' was about? I'm not jumping to conclusions. Why don't you want it to be true? I missed Flagg's "ugh" until now. 1 minute ago, shrader said: So they're cool with him "viciously" beating the kid but draw the line at beating the woman? If it's true, they (not quite sure who "they" are) should have done something far sooner. I can't help but be skeptical, especially when it comes from twitter instead of the police. It's so over the top - and the guy's been ... "clean" for so long (I mean, I guess?) - that some restraint seems appropriate. Quote
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