OT: The Geography of NY

[Sabres Fan in NS]

Interesting that this map from the Appalachian Regional Commission cuts off the region designated as Appalachia just south of Buffalo. That's about where I would say WNY begins, spreading eastward toward Rochester. Many would separate the southern tier from WNY, which doesn't really make sense geographically. But as I posited, WNY is more a vibe, somewhere you belong to for reasons other than the map. There's no doubt the metro areas of WNY look down their nose at the rural areas to their south within the state and -- ack! -- in "Pennsyltucky." It's evident in so many comments on here over the years. d4rk nailed it on his 11 map — "dirt."

 

 

What is that #### doing in the middle of Tennessee?

[Stoner]

What is that #### doing in the middle of Tennessee?

It's doing better than the one in the middle of Kentucky, that's for sure.

[SwampD]

Interesting that this map from the Appalachian Regional Commission cuts off the region designated as Appalachia just south of Buffalo. That's about where I would say WNY begins, spreading eastward toward Rochester. Many would separate the southern tier from WNY, which doesn't really make sense geographically. But as I posited, WNY is more a vibe, somewhere you belong to for reasons other than the map. There's no doubt the metro areas of WNY look down their nose at the rural areas to their south within the state and -- ack! -- in "Pennsyltucky." It's evident in so many comments on here over the years. d4rk nailed it on his 11 map — "dirt."

 

Having crossed that boundry hundreds of times, it's almost like the light and air change when you cross that threshold.

[Sabres Fan in NS]

It's doing better than the one in the middle of Kentucky, that's for sure.

 

:w00t:

[SwampD]

It's doing better than the one in the middle of Kentucky, that's for sure.

It's Appalachia's wang!

[Sabres Fan in NS]

Now this thread is getting good.

 

PA, go in the corner and give yourself a cat bath.

[Stoner]

Having crossed that boundry hundreds of times, it's almost like the light and air change when you cross that threshold.

Going which way? I can speak of someone who occasionally has to leave God's Country and venture into Satan's Playground. The air is so dewy sweet in the Twin Tiers that we don't have to lick our stamps.

[Taro T]

Thanks Taro, ...

You're welcome. ;)

[That Aud Smell]

Chautauqua County is part of Pennsylvania.

 

Haha - fair deuce

Cool map on this page. I can't say I think of Erie, PA as being part of Appalachia, though.

[jsb]

The maps I remember from way back are:

 

 

The never left NY City person map

 

[MattPie]

Chautauqua County is part of Pennsyltucky.

 

FTFY

 

WNY more or less equals the old 716 area code. I'd guess that means 716 + 585 now? I'd say Southern Tier to be Area code 607 (i.e., not Chatauqua, but if they have a brewery named Southern Tier, they can have that name too.

Edited February 1, 2018 by MattiPaj

[Stoner]

Our Adjusted Corsi Close Shooting Percentage from Grade A Territory sucks!

[Amerks8796]

If WNY were limited to Buffalo and its suburbs, we would just call it Erie and Niagara Counties. WNY includes Rochester.

 

Taro, if you think Buffalo and Rochester are currently in the same condition, you might want to spend a weekday walking around downtown in each city. They're nothing alike anymore. I fear for my life in downtown Rochester. It's like a colder Newark.

Couldn’t disagree more. Rochester’s downtown population had practically tripled in the last 10-15 years and there’s been billions of dollars of investment. I work downtown and it’s night and day (for the better) compared to even 5-10 years ago. Buffalo’s downtown has been developing at a faster pace, though. Both have made huge strides.

[erickompositör72]

Upstate is north of Middletown and east of rte 14.

 

I hear "upstate" regularly referring to everything in NYS that not NYC, LI, Westchester or Rockland counties. I've actually even hear Nyack referred to as upstate. I routinely refer to myself as from "upstate" without batting an eye. If I were to tell most people in NYC that I'm from "western NY," they say "you mean Jersey?"

[josie]

I thought WNY only included Buffalo and down to the PA border. I'm not from here but every time I slipped up and said I live in Upstate NY a horde of angry bleu cheese loving locals would chew me out and inform me that this is Western NY and Rochester is Upstate and How Dare I Mix Them Up and yes, to my NYC pals, everything not on Manhattan is "upstate" or "the mountains" (and you have to clarify which- usually means the Catskills as a day escape from Brooklyn) and Buffalo might as well be another country. 

 

But it really doesn't matter, does it? 

 

I hear "upstate" regularly referring to everything in NYS that not NYC, LI, Westchester or Rockland counties. I've actually even hear Nyack referred to as upstate. I routinely refer to myself as from "upstate" without batting an eye. If I were to tell most people in NYC that I'm from "western NY," they say "you mean Jersey?"

I had a friend go to Nyack and yes, he always said he lived in upstate NY. So when I said I was going to college in upstate, he said "come visit me! We can't be far away!" uhhhh nope. But we're both from NW Ohio and clueless so 

[erickompositör72]

My conversations usually go like this:

 

"I grew up upstate"

 

"where exactly upstate?"

 

"Buffalo"

 

"oh... that's WAY upstate!"

[sodbuster]

My conversations usually go like this:

 

"I grew up upstate"

 

"where exactly upstate?"

 

"Buffalo"

 

"oh... that's WAY upstate!"

Thats dumb. Malone is WAY upstate. Massena is WAY upstate. Buffalo is "out west."

[Wyldnwoody44]

So on that sports map.... Are there no jets fans?

[GASabresIUFAN]

None

[SwampD]

Thats dumb. Malone is WAY upstate. Massena is WAY upstate. Buffalo is "out west."

Most people down here think Buffalo is about two hours outside of Albany

[erickompositör72]

Thats dumb.

 

It's not dumb. It's just perception/nomenclature. Where I live, "upstate NY" is the most succinct way to describe my origins. If it doesn't bother me, don't let it bother you  ;)

[SwampD]

Maybe and hour and a half.

[erickompositör72]

Most people down here think Buffalo is about two hours outside of Albany

 

A guy I used to work with drove up from the city to see the Stones at Rich Stadium way back when- he told me he told his mom he was just going to Albany. He was shocked when he realized how much further he had to go  ;)

[inkman]

I fear for my life in downtown Rochester.

As you should. There are nicer parts of downtown (pretty much east of the Genesee as long as you don't venture too far north) but Chiraq ain't got nothing on Rochistan. If my doors didn't lock automatically I'd manually lock them west of Tahous and north of main. Peeps be getting shot and stabbed daily in them parts.

 

My only view of Buffalo has been from Pearl St to the KBC. :lol:

[North Buffalo]

I hear "upstate" regularly referring to everything in NYS that not NYC, LI, Westchester or Rockland counties. I've actually even hear Nyack referred to as upstate. I routinely refer to myself as from "upstate" without batting an eye. If I were to tell most people in NYC that I'm from "western NY," they say "you mean Jersey?"

LMAO used to say anything Poughekpsie and south but burbs have expanded

Edited February 2, 2018 by Kottbullar